Members cassadine1991 Posted June 7, 2013 Members Share Posted June 7, 2013 I know, him and Cartini.. and him about Trevor St. John and how he bags on Roger Howarth, sorry but TSJ isn't all that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Scryber96 Posted June 7, 2013 Members Share Posted June 7, 2013 Why is that so out of the realm of possibility? AMC already moved from New York to LA to Stamford. Ugly Betty moved from LA to NYC, while Fringe went from NYC to Vancouver. Body of Proof went from Rhode Island to LA. Tax credits are constantly changing and production will move to wherever they can get the best deal at the time. And unless you're paying really close attention to the end credits, the average viewer can't tell the difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members EricMontreal22 Posted June 7, 2013 Members Share Posted June 7, 2013 He had a habit of talking about how big Jeff Branson's equipment is, too. I think after building the sets, establishing a crew, etc, it would be too early to really justify the cost of a move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members KMan101 Posted June 7, 2013 Members Share Posted June 7, 2013 It seems insane to even consider moving production. These PP threads are always ... something. My first gut reaction, and it seems the actors are feeling this way (am I wrong on that?), is that the shows just won't ever resume production. (But I hope that they do and I think this is just another bump that's being elevated to "OHMYGOD" status) These shows have really been put through the wringer LOL. And after a completely surprising revival this year (followed by the insane amount of hurdles and complications), I figure they'll ultimately get through this one too. If not, I'll deal with that when "that" news (not saying it will) comes down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Vee Posted June 7, 2013 Members Share Posted June 7, 2013 I think the actors are thinking the exact opposite of that, by everything we've seen so far from Eden Riegel, other staffers, etc. Whether or not that's true and they're being sold a bill of goods, we'll see. I hope not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members dragonflies Posted June 7, 2013 Members Share Posted June 7, 2013 Pretty sure his sources lean more towards the CBS soaps. Basically it's the actors he sucks up too lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members KMan101 Posted June 7, 2013 Members Share Posted June 7, 2013 Oh, OK. That's good then. I was more going off of earlier posts with Robin's hotline and it was phrased like she was panicking. I also got concern from Reigel's initial tweet but it's hard to assume anything from a tweet. Guess they were nothing. I admit to not finishing reading everything though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members GregNYC Posted June 7, 2013 Members Share Posted June 7, 2013 Unions can be just as greedy as corporations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rhinohide Posted June 7, 2013 Members Share Posted June 7, 2013 Thank you. MTE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rhinohide Posted June 7, 2013 Members Share Posted June 7, 2013 Well, maybe I am making too much of nothing, but it seems like a really big deal that they built a new studio from the ground up in two months. I was amazed they could do it once. It sounds like tptb at PP think they'll be able to resolve this. Whether or not it's a matter of proving their claim that they didn't go over budget, or they think they can reach some compromise with the union is the question in my mind. And if they're so confident, why interrupt the taping schedule? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Winchester91 Posted June 7, 2013 Members Share Posted June 7, 2013 Exactly what I was thinkin'. Why does it always have to get to this point? They had, what, a year to plan this all out? However, they didn't anticipate binge viewing (thus, the episode cut)...or that they'd go over budget? Sloppy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members greens_dupres Posted June 7, 2013 Members Share Posted June 7, 2013 I wonder if the reduction was more about binge viewing or trying to stockpile eps knowing that the union was making noise. I'm not saying viewership patterns weren't examined but I think a lot of us thought it might have more to do with production issues. This latest development seems to support that at least in my opinion. As far as why they stopped production, I think there could be any number of reasons. I could imagine they thought it would be better to do so before there was an actual strike. I could imagine that it was a cost move if they do think they'll need to throw some money at the unions. I could imagine it was Jeff K telling the unions F off- now there's no work next week and then throwing the moving threat out there. None of this makes PP look stable but I do think they could have decided to interrupt production even if they think the union has no merits. As far as the actors, I did not get at all that Eden Riegel thinks this is done- I think her tweet was more of an exasperated "really?!?! another obstacle?!?". She said she's heard there's confidence it will be resolved and I don't think she would throw that out there cavalierly. Some other cast members maybe but I just don't think so with Eden. And Robin Strasser was just well being Robin Strasser talking about wanting to get her shoes back. The first thing she said on the hotline was that she had no information. So I wouldn't worry a ton on the actor front yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Winchester91 Posted June 7, 2013 Members Share Posted June 7, 2013 This is the first "pro-PP' argument that has any resonance with me. I got so tired of the endless union blaming that goes on in this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Soaplovers Posted June 7, 2013 Members Share Posted June 7, 2013 I think both PP and the union are at fault. PP does seem to leap before making sure they aren't leaping into a volcano.. while unions have been known to be very greedy and pig-headed... hence why a lot of productions seem to go to Canada and right to work states. Plus, unions have been known for causing companies to shut down.. like what happened to my dad's company. In that case, they were in chapter 11 bk.. and the CEO stated that every single employee/union had to make concussion (he even took a big pay cut as well).. and everyone was on board except for one lone union.. and they responded by going on strike.. and the company stated that if everyone wasn't on board then the company would have to fold.. but the lone union refused to back down.. and the company switched to chapter 7 and over 18,000 jobs were lost. That said, if PP hasn't gone over budget or violated any part of the contract.. then the union needs to back down and not be so greedy. However, if the contract established stated that the shows were to be shown online only for at least 9 months, and that included other countries then PP needs to pay the fees/penalities for the 15 episodes of each show shown on FX Canada. Plus, pay any fees,etc for any day they went over 125,000 if it comes out that they did go overbudget on certain days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JONNYSBRO Posted June 7, 2013 Members Share Posted June 7, 2013 Does anyone really think these shows will not go back into production and they will be cancelled? I just don't see PP giving up like that. That means cancelled and rights reverted back to ABC. Its not like ABC would do anything about it. This is a start up a very ambitious project. Its going to take time to iron all the kinks out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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