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The Young and The Restless Shocker: - Actress Leaving

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I'm pretty sure MS is quitting because why on earth would you do a recast after Nick finally opened the paternity test envelope.

Deciding to not renew one's contract when it up for renewal is quitting. Leaving when one's contract negotiations fails is getting fired. And right now, there is no indication of a recast.

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I am actually not upset about this....

For all we care send Braeden packing too....He is someone who I am surprised has made it past JFP's enemy list so far.

Maybe when they read Kay's will, we will find out that Kay gave him a S**ty deal or something and that will cause Victor to exit.

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And what exactly has Jack done of any significance in the last few years of Y&R? Aside from him becoming an alcoholic or some kinda addict I haven't heard anything remotely interesting about Jack Abbott as it relates to Y&R. I don't hate Jack and I'm not some blind Phyllis fan but she's been a central character of the show for years now (especially once the affair with Nick started). After being married to Nick I don't find Jack any type of great prize.

So yes IMO she was stuck with Jack cuz there's no one else viable on the show. And for that I'm glad she's leaving cuz at lleast they'll hopefully end their boring relationship.

I can't say who was going to be stuck with whom at this point, but I'm glad this couple won't be revisited for long. They were boring the hell out of me this time around. Plus it really didn't make much sense for Jack to want her again after she betrayed him with Nick.I didn't mind them the first time though. Diane made them interesting, I guess, plus Phil was still doing crazy $hit.

I've always liked Jack, but they have really screwed his character from a romantic standpoint. He's had too many week long marriages for me to take him seriously on that front. For such a long standing character he really doesn't have a definitive pairing, which is too bad.

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I'm starting to think (and hope) this is a negotiating tactic. It would make the most sense since there has been no comment from Stafford herself or from any other reliable sources.

The alternative is unthinkable. Y&R simply CANNOT be without Michelle Stafford/Phyllis.

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And what exactly has Jack done of any significance in the last few years of Y&R? Aside from him becoming an alcoholic or some kinda addict I haven't heard anything remotely interesting about Jack Abbott as it relates to Y&R. I don't hate Jack and I'm not some blind Phyllis fan but she's been a central character of the show for years now (especially once the affair with Nick started). After being married to Nick I don't find Jack any type of great prize.

So yes IMO she was stuck with Jack cuz there's no one else viable on the show. And for that I'm glad she's leaving cuz at lleast they'll hopefully end their boring relationship.

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Juliajms:

I've always liked Jack, but they have really screwed his character from a romantic standpoint. He's had too many week long marriages for me to take him seriously on that front. For such a long standing character he really doesn't have a definitive pairing, which is too bad.

Jack has been jipped by many regimes, but he has held on. I always think of his romance with Nikki as his signature pairing. They should have been together longer AND one of their children should have lived.

I was not fond of his relationship with Phyllis the first time around, but it worked with Diane making trouble. I know that this is a soap, but it is impossible for me to believe that Jack would pursue Phyllis after what happened. The writers should have invested in a major love interest for him ages ago instead of giving him weak relationships like with Sharon.

Forget the SOC article, I misread it. Whatever the case, I am not crying that she is gone.

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I think killing her - particularly a suicide - would also be a shocking, daring move. But they won't do that, she's too popular. They would 20, 30 years ago.

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^

CK needs to be recast. She brings NOTHING to the show. So sad that the daughter of two vibrant characters to ever grace Y&R is so f*ckin' dull to the point that I want to cry b/c she's do dull. Lily has to be the dullest character (except when Davetta played her) ever to grace soaps.

I need someone to give JFP the okay to oust Khalil. That should be the next firing and recasting we read about. The writing for Lily is not the problem. Lily now has a good career, pretty good lines(that CK's dullness flubs), and a sexy potential love interest. They had to bring in another young black female because CK is not cutting it.

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I'm starting to think (and hope) this is a negotiating tactic. It would make the most sense since there has been no comment from Stafford herself or from any other reliable sources.

The alternative is unthinkable. Y&R simply CANNOT be without Michelle Stafford/Phyllis.

Given the state of the show and JFP being relatively new I think the show can go on and will go on with MS/Phyllis.

If anyone's death would affect Y&R it would probably be Katherines....

And Ann_SS I do agree regarding Jack. Other than his relationship with Phyllis back when Diane Jenkins was played by Susan Walters and his relationship with Pauls sister Patty I haven't bought Jack as any kind of romantic lead for the longest time.

They keep doing these random relationships with him and it just doesn't work. Him and Sharon grossed me out (mostly cuz their age difference was so apparent). But also cuz they lacked any kind of chemistry.

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Juliajms:

Jack has been jipped by many regimes, but he has held on. I always think of his romance with Nikki as his signature pairing. They should have been together longer AND one of their children should have lived.

I was not fond of his relationship with Phyllis the first time around, but it worked with Diane making trouble. I know that this is a soap, but it is impossible for me to believe that Jack would pursue Phyllis after what happened. The writers should have invested in a major love interest for him ages ago instead of giving him weak relationships like with Sharon.

Forget the SOC article, I misread it. Whatever the case, I am not crying that she is gone.

I mostly agree with you Ann. I've always felt that Jack and Nikki's son should have lived. This last marriage to Nikki was a waste. That should have lasted a year or so.

I think Jack has been a good character despite the terrible love life because for a a good part of his run business stories got a lot of play. Plus his relationships with Ashley and John had a lot of depth.

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I'm starting to think (and hope) this is a negotiating tactic. It would make the most sense since there has been no comment from Stafford herself or from any other reliable sources.

The alternative is unthinkable. Y&R simply CANNOT be without Michelle Stafford/Phyllis.

Says who? Y&R survived 30+ years w/o Phyllis and can go another w/o her. She ain't that valuable. She ain't no Nikki or Jill.

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Despite logging 16 years on the show, I've never considered Phyllis/MS a "vet" or a character that was somehow integral to the show and its core.

She's a peripheral character that got popular and has lived on past her expiration date because of that supposed popularity, IMO.

+1,000.

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I think Robin or Jamie would be an asset to Y&R but I wouldn't recast Phyllis. There's too much baggage.

That's not gonna stop them. For sure.

I already see JFP having dinner with Robin Christopher and discussing her joining Y&R.

And before anyone starts: There once was a DIFFERENT Phyllis. And Sandra Nelson was simply fantastic at that. Yes, this role is very recastable. It's not needed though.

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Says who? Y&R survived 30+ years w/o Phyllis and can go another w/o her. She ain't that valuable. She ain't no Nikki or Jill.

+2,000

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