*waits for someone to spin this bad writing*

Or still blame Guza like you and others do in the GH thread?

Frankly, I don't see anyone raving about this storyline or Syphilis as a character.

So Phyllis gets off scot-free are we supposed to be impressed this is what the new HW writes?

*waits for someone to spin this bad writing*

Is anyone surprised at Phyllis not paying for her crimes? Even when she "paid" during LML's era, the writing left a bad taste in viewer's mouths.

The show never should have brought this story back up.

lmao Uncle Phil doesn't like the bug either. She used the sytem for her own personal gain.

I'm being premature again, but i'm just going to assume that maybe this is all going to be a big set up for when Phyllis really goes down, come on did you guys really buy the whole Uncle Phil being a judge, the whole thing seems like a set up.

Other than that, I'm not entirely impress with what's going on so far, I know it's been only 2 days, but everything just seems so rushed and I'm starting to not like the quick scene cut, when is MAB going to stop appearing in the credits?

I thought nu summer was ok, but the last one was kind of starting to grow on me, and I thought that scene of Fen kissing her was so stupid.

I still wanna see a gay story with Fen, this guy is the perfect actor to do it with, but of course I don't know if the chances of that are ruined now that he kissed Summer.

I know in my heart this show will eventually get better, but i'm just giving my feedback for the last couple of days.

People who support Phyllis even as she rants like she did in court...I just don't know how they don't put their heads down in shame at how repugnant she is. Avery almost looked ashamed but Ronan, he looked like he couldn't wait to lick old Phyllis's boots.

I'm not sure why they brought this back up if this was the end result. St. Phyllis wins again.

Or still blame Guza like you and others do in the GH thread?

Frankly, I don't see anyone raving about this storyline or Syphilis as a character.

Exactly! And the new regime did not start this story nor did the write the majority of it. MAB was writing it so Syphilis would win from day 1. Did anyone really expect to see Phyllis go to jail and sit through weeks of her wailing about when she's getting out?

I will say the directing has definitely improved on this show. It just seems like Griffith is in a rush to end Maria's stories ASAP (but, who could blame him). I just hope he has some solid plans of his own in place.

I enjoyed the directing in the scene where Nick told Syphilis he was filing for divorce at the hospital, and then Nick walks away and the camera zooms in slowly on Syphilis (for her reaction shot) as Avery watches on from behind. There was another one with the camera slowly moving back in a Chealsea/Adam scene as well.

The camera is moving again, I guess that's call for a celebration on anything Y&R-related these days.

Some fans have me in stitches - Griffith has barely been credited for two episodes and already they're whining about how the new writing has failed and that Phelps is the devil.

The show is going to remain sh!t on a creative level - I honestly don't expect any miracles or for Griffith to be that much better than Maria was.

I guess it's easier to accept when you no longer have any attachment to the show. Especially in this daytime climate when each show is so terrible at the moment.

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The show is going to remain sh!t on a creative level - I honestly don't expect any miracles or for Griffith to be that much better than Maria was.

I guess it's easier to accept when you no longer have any attachment to the show. Especially in this daytime climate when each show is so terrible at the moment.

The show is going to remain sh!t on a creative level - I honestly don't expect any miracles or for Griffith to be that much better than Maria was.

I guess it's easier to accept when you no longer have any attachment to the show. Especially in this daytime climate when each show is so terrible at the moment.

Well at least he didn't start his run as EP by saying the first thing he thought of was who he could bring over from HH and SuBe. And so far he's not on his twitter praising himself while mocking fans.

There were some bad music on Monday's ep. The first one was when Fen/Summer kissed - it was some teeny bopper music. The second one was the Ronan/Phyllis scene at the end - it was some weird drum beat. That's 3 bad choices so far under JFP. What in the world is she telling Jack Allocco and David Kurtz to compose???

Honestly, I trust Josh Griffith with the show more than I would trust any other writer at this point (yes, that includes Kay Alden - she may have the most history with the show but her lack of imagination was evident in her 1998-2002 run and I doubt she would have been able to modernize the show the way Griffith and JFP plan to). I'm already seeing subtle improvements and I like that he's trying to wrap up MAB's crap quickly.

I still wanna see a gay story with Fen, this guy is the perfect actor to do it with, but of course I don't know if the chances of that are ruined now that he kissed Summer.

Not necessarily. He could kiss Summer and still be in the closet.

As always, I'm with Carl. Unless Phyllis was slated to pay severely for her crimes, bringing up what she did to Paul and Cricket served no purpose. To me, it's the soap storyline equivalent of a Trojan horse.