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What stories didn't work(ratings wise/creative wise) in soaps?


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I also want to chime in on women with long lost children. GL gave Reva two of them, if I recall correctly: Dylan and the royal son. Plus she married every man in the same family which I also find distasteful and all that was missing was her giving birth to old HB's son and everyone was supposed to just going on rooting for her and Josh to be together. And to level the scum factor, he got her sister. Maybe I ought to throw in all those darned near incestuous relationships because all these characters live in the hills where potential mates are in such short supply that they need to be passed around and around.

I think Brooke Logan Forrester has Reva Shayne Lewis beat in the ick factor of keeping it in the family. And she lives in LA, the 2nd most populated city in the U.S.... no excuses, Brooke! ;)

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Selena on GL also had two long-losts: Drew, who she was searching for, and a son, who she never mentioned until Gus came to town...and was rewritten to NOT be her son, whose whereabouts she'd suddenly always known.

Any story that rewrites history and makes current characters "old friends." The Annabelle mystery on GL which linked the Spauldings, Bauers, Lewises and Chamberlains decades prior, and it's poor retelling, the Maryanne Carruthers mystery.

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I think Brooke Logan Forrester has Reva Shayne Lewis beat in the ick factor of keeping it in the family. And she lives in LA, the 2nd most populated city in the U.S.... no excuses, Brooke! wink.png

The weird part with Reva was that it all went so fast. She was married to Billy (in name only by that time), then reunited with Josh, then went to HB, then got with Kyle, who was thought to be HB's son at that time. This was in two years or less.

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That was a few years after their divorce.

No matter how much B&B calls Brooke a slut, I just never see her that way. Taylor slept with Thorne and almost slept with Eric, and she slept with three generations (Brooke's father, Brooke's son, Ridge). Yet no one ever calls her a slut.

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That was a few years after their divorce.

No matter how much B&B calls Brooke a slut, I just never see her that way. Taylor slept with Thorne and almost slept with Eric, and she slept with three generations (Brooke's father, Brooke's son, Ridge). Yet no one ever calls her a slut.

You are so right. Wasn't she engaged to Rick (Kyle Lowder's version)? I can't recall all the romantic entanglements of the past 5 years, with different Ricks, Phoebes & Steffies, etc.

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Actually, Grant died of nut cancer when he was romancing Macy. I liked that short-lived pairing.

LOL.. on "nut," cancer.. Trying to imaging Douglas Marland writing a story about that and all we would hear is people constantly referring to it as "testicular cancer," and making it a PSA. As in Margo: " Ever since Tom found out that he had "Testicular Cancer, our sexual relationship has slowed down, however, I am in therapy to help em see that this is the natural progression of the disease and has nothing to do with my sexual attractiveness as a woman. As you know, 1 our of 5 marriages end when their partner developes "Testicular Cancer." or Bob, "Son since you developed "Testicular Cancer," I hope you realize that your virility will not disappear entirely. If you have problems having sexual relations with Margo, you can always use Viagra to counter act the effects of "Testicular Cancer," which effects one out of 8 males over 40. However, as we can see from your treatment, 95 percent of men survive "Testicular Cancer," when detected early." Or everyone else in town, "How does Lily feel about Tom's "Testicular Cancer,"???" LOL on him reading one of his script writers call it "nut cancer."

Sigh, I miss my dumb shows!

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Frankly, I don't think rape storylines could be any more phenomenal than one I've only heard about and have been dying to see for years -- and that's when George Curtis (Anthony Geary, of ALL people, lol) raped young Chris Brooks on Y&R. There, you had a situation where it was clear, apparently, that he did, indeed, assault the girl. However, in a twist that I don't think soaps would dare try even today, he was acquitted of the charges in court; and even worse, the trauma had a major impact on her and Snapper's sexual relationship for some time afterward.

Damn, Bill Bell, I am so sorry I didn't love your work when you still were alive. sad.png

Now that sounds like a compelling rape story.

And you mean you never watched a Bill Bell show while he was still writing it, Khan? I had no idea, though now that I think about it, I see u mostly posting about OLTL, GL, and DAYS (as a fan).

I think Brooke Logan Forrester has Reva Shayne Lewis beat in the ick factor of keeping it in the family. And she lives in LA, the 2nd most populated city in the U.S.... no excuses, Brooke! wink.png

I thought they were tied, but...

The weird part with Reva was that it all went so fast. She was married to Billy (in name only by that time), then reunited with Josh, then went to HB, then got with Kyle, who was thought to be HB's son at that time. This was in two years or less.

So actually, Reva is far, far worse. And points to Brooke (and KKL) for having chemistry with every one of those three men (four if you're counting Thomas).

Actually, Grant died of nut cancer when he was romancing Macy. I liked that short-lived pairing.

Heh, heh. Nut cancer. :lol:

I'm actually grateful for the Grant/Brooke romance though because that was the one that made Ridge wake up and finally fight for Brooke the way she'd always deserved. Brooke actually put up a pretty good fight, too.

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And you mean you never watched a Bill Bell show while he was still writing it, Khan?

Oh, no, I watched B&B and Y&R while Papa Bell still was alive and involved with his creations. It's just that I used to make of B&B and Y&R, which were more Mama Khan's shows than mine, on account of the glacial plotting and vapid acting. It wasn't until he was gone and I saw what had become of the two in his absence that I realized how very, very wrong I was in my assessment. Especially when you realize how B&B and Y&R appeared to be the last bastions of traditional soap storytelling.

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So actually, Reva is far, far worse.

Yes, except I found Reva more empathetic than Brooke, who was just a cheap, wanton slut in my eyes. I mean, even Reva would've known it wasn't Ridge under that mask at Hope's graduation party, know what I'm saying?

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