Members Ben Posted June 9, 2012 Members Share Posted June 9, 2012 Turkey baster pregnancies... apparently. I find most gambling stories boring - if you've seen one, it always feels like you've seen them all. The only time I engage in a gambling story is if the setting/scenario is different, and not the run-of-the-mill cards/casino/horsing/dog racing or whatever - something I've not seen before, something new. I've wondered this for a while, but why do art stories always fail? Is it simply b/c they're always written with the "who cares" factor? What would make them work? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DRW50 Posted June 9, 2012 Members Share Posted June 9, 2012 Gambling stories tend to start way too fast. Someone is addicted in a month or less. The only gambling stories which work are stories which build over time. I don't think all art stories fail. I think that they can be part of a larger story. If people sit around going on about stolen paintings, it's very dull, but sometimes they work. The soap press didn't like it, but I enjoyed Sam's con artist story on ATWT - she was pretending to be Lucinda Walsh's sister so she could forge a painting. The real drama of the story was her beginning to care for Lucinda, and fall in love with Craig Montgomery, then be revealed as a con. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ben Posted June 9, 2012 Members Share Posted June 9, 2012 They do don't they. A slow build up would require too much work these days, when everything has to happen now. So the secret to a decent art story is not to make it the only point to the story - have something else that is the real story. That would require some actual thought going into the writing, and the soaps these days don't seem to be able to do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Dr Neil Curtis Posted June 9, 2012 Members Share Posted June 9, 2012 Question: stories like Ciara and Zack paternity on days, could they been better had the other guy been the father? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Gray Bunny Posted June 11, 2012 Members Share Posted June 11, 2012 Pretty sad that Brooke wouldn't know the different between Ridge's love wand and someone else's.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DRW50 Posted June 11, 2012 Members Share Posted June 11, 2012 It's just dumbass writing. I don't think it's a coincidence that ratings fell around these storylines. They are empty shock value and degrading garbage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cheap21 Posted June 11, 2012 Members Share Posted June 11, 2012 I hate political stories which involve characters fighting to become mayor. i especially roll my eyes when one of the candidates is a known criminal and has NO business being in office, yet he or she wins. Its usually a plot point as the elected mayor rarely does anything once they win Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DRW50 Posted June 11, 2012 Members Share Posted June 11, 2012 I was going to say this too. Political stories tend to be a bore, or are just written as cheap comedy. The one that is probably seen as the best (Alex running for mayor on OLTL) didn't do much for me, aside from the great scenes when she was going around telling people that Nora had endorsed her, and Nora was horrified. The best political story I've seen recently has been a city council race on Isidingo. If only they could watch it and write that here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members cct Posted June 12, 2012 Members Share Posted June 12, 2012 No, you are thinking of Carlos. He "worked" at Fusion (all he did was walk around carrying a hammer and pretended to listen in on conversation). Carlos was Juan Pablo's brother. Both were major fails. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cheap21 Posted June 12, 2012 Members Share Posted June 12, 2012 I liked JP and Greenlee together. I hated Carlos for most of his run but he was good with Simone towards the end Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ellabelle Posted June 13, 2012 Members Share Posted June 13, 2012 Yes! Thank you! Or the campaign is completely and utterly ridiculous. Think AMC's Travis running for a US Senate seat - and winning - despite knocking up his frequently-divorced girlfriend Erica Kane during the race. Like that would have gone over well in rural Pennsylvania in the late 1980s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DRW50 Posted June 13, 2012 Members Share Posted June 13, 2012 Or Edmund's Senate campaign, which seems like a huge bore in the episodes I've watched. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members EricMontreal22 Posted June 13, 2012 Members Share Posted June 13, 2012 Carlos was another fail in the Rayfield era. I actually thought it was smart of McTavish to immediately phase him out and bring on his brother--Juan Pablo never fully worked, and the accent was a bit much, but at least he made some sense and the guy was an OK actor--Carlos was played by one of the worst actors I've ever seen on a soap (and his story was a mess--writing love poems to Greenlee but keeping ti a secret for some reason, etc). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members juniorz1 Posted June 13, 2012 Members Share Posted June 13, 2012 You're right! So now who's this Paolo person who got murdered then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cheap21 Posted June 13, 2012 Members Share Posted June 13, 2012 Vanessa's ex lover Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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