Members Marco Dane Posted March 21, 2011 Members Share Posted March 21, 2011 ABC could move 'One Life to Live' to California Oh HELL NO !!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members marceline Posted March 21, 2011 Members Share Posted March 21, 2011 Given how poorly the AMC move worked out, I'd find it hard to believe that the higher-ups would authorize another move for any of the remaining shows. Hookers, strippers, porn and rape. What's not to like? People have been complaining about how misogynistic and violent GH is for years and it's been performing well all that time. I guess AMC's downfall was not enough violence and nastiness, a.k.a. boring. *sigh* If only Ryan had clocked Greenlee all those years ago, we might not be here today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Marley Posted March 21, 2011 Members Share Posted March 21, 2011 I don't know why focus groups are all of a sudden taken seriously (by us posters). I don't doubt that they are taken seriously by ABC but when Rylee supposedly is loved by focus groups it's a fraud but when OLTL scores high it's a sign of quality? IMHO, the focus groups are conducted on idiots who likes what they are manipulated into liking, it's psych 101. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ER Tosh Posted March 21, 2011 Members Share Posted March 21, 2011 I don't think that anyone is saying that OLTL getting a high score means it's a sign of quality at all. Just that if something like focus groups may be the reason that OLTL well.. lives (for now) and AMC dies it is interesting to try to figure out why the groups liked OLTL better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Kylie Posted March 21, 2011 Members Share Posted March 21, 2011 It's kinda interesting to me that AMC's focus group results would fit with ratings, but OLTL's sound like they don't all. It makes you wonder who they're asking and what they're asking. Do these people even watch the show? And GH, well GH is it's own case study, so I'm surprised and not at the same time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members All My Shadows Posted March 21, 2011 Members Share Posted March 21, 2011 Word. If AMC has to be like OLTL in order to stay on the air, give me the m*therf*cking gun and let me shoot the b!tch. Off top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Members CCCapwell Posted March 21, 2011 Members Share Posted March 21, 2011 If OLTL ratings don't improve I agree with you its all over for it as well, although if DAYS found a way to make ratings gains so could OLTL so to completly dismiss that possibility is just outrageous to me. Think about the ratings a few years ago, OLTL was behind AMC if I remember and OLTL was damned to cancelation, WOW! I guess things didn't turn out the way a lot of people on this board predicted! lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Kylie Posted March 21, 2011 Members Share Posted March 21, 2011 ^Which why I'm saying, I still have trouble believing that argument that OLTL could last years. Possible? Yes. Days did it, your right. But it's holding on by it's own thread right now. Hopefully, we'll see something good happen there. I don't want the genre to die, and I'd like to see OLTL and GH last as long as possible. It's just a hard thing for me to see right now with OLTL. (I'd be more hard pressed to see a real future if they would held the sweeps gains.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Eric83 Posted March 21, 2011 Members Share Posted March 21, 2011 Glad to know OLTL is safe. Unlike Lucci, once OLTL is gone Strasser and Slezak will never be on televison again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Y&RWorldTurner Posted March 21, 2011 Members Share Posted March 21, 2011 Sweeps are mostly all that matters to advertisers anyway, sadly. OLTL gaining during sweeps probably means a lot more to them than them falling immediately afterwards. AMC hitting record lows during sweeps and continuing to falter in the desired demos must look really bad to advertisers, and thus ABC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members LoyaltoAMC Posted March 21, 2011 Members Share Posted March 21, 2011 The focus group research on AMC has been terrible for years. Kay Alden even said so in her MIT seminar a few years back. The research for Zendull, Rylee, all of it was in the gutter. Yet they continued to shove Zendull down our throats day after day, and and still can't let go of Zach's memory! And Rylee unfortunately is still going strong. If these cancellation rumors do turn out to be true, and I'm still taking all of this with a grain of salt, it's sad that they never did anything of substance to reverse the tide. They just went with the same old, same old and never tried to fix things. Band-Aids weren't the solution. I think the whole Tad-Cara thing is a breath of fresh air and has helped to refocus the show a bit. Hoping that ABC is taking a wait-and-see attitude, although it can't be too reassuring that the weeks this story was front burner saw their demos crash to record lows. Ugh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Y&RWorldTurner Posted March 21, 2011 Members Share Posted March 21, 2011 What a hideous avatar, Loyal! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JONNYSBRO Posted March 21, 2011 Members Share Posted March 21, 2011 There were a few times this year OLTL was number 1 in viewers for ABC soaps. The show really is doging the huge bullet. I honestly believe the AMC move was meant to cancel OLTL. AMC had all this money, promotion, Kelly Ripa return and everything invested. The biggest flop of the move they couldn't keep Lorriane as head writer and they would not fire Julie. Show needed a new executive producer badly. Plus Frons tried to get McTavish back as Jamey reported months ago. My source info is McTavish had big demands and one of them was huge creative control and firing Julie. McTavish saved Frons ass back in 2003. Show was in tiolet and during Cambias/baby switch AMC was having huge surges in ratings. In 2005 she went south and then 2007 was fired by Frons. It was very bitter firing. As she got all blame for Dixie mess but Julie came out unscathed. OLTL being in the final five soaps, WOWsa whoever would have thought this. If anyone would have told u five years ago OLTL would remain over AMC, wouldn't u think this person was on drugs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members marceline Posted March 21, 2011 Members Share Posted March 21, 2011 OLTL isn't going to last years unless something really unfathomable happens and by that I mean something that reverses years of viewer behavior. Yes its possible, I remember when DAYS was at death's door and I also remember when their ratings were soaring and every other post on this board was about how great the show was. But that was years ago and a lot has changed since then. We've lost a couple of soaps, the economy has tanked and the problems that are affecting soaps are affecting ALL of television: daytime, primetime and cable. This isn't just about the soaps, Frons, which show tests better, etc... this is about how ABC Daytime fits in with the network as a whole. How is ABC Family doing? How is the news division doing? What about the internet? Overseas? I love AMC but if I were running ABC I'd have no problem with replacing AMC with the "Male View" and OLTL with a lifestyle show a la Martha Stewart. (Perhaps something with B. Smith and one of the Queer Eye guys.) And if those failed, I'd replace them with L&O/ER repeats. Economically there's no reason to stick with soaps in their present form. There just isn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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