1 minute ago, Errol said:

Is this the era when Sami and Austin were getting married in Vegas? If so, the head writers at the time were a breath of fresh air. The soap world could use their juice right about now.

No. That was in 2002 under Brash/Cwikly. 2006 was the end of JER's second run.

1 minute ago, AbcNbc247 said:

No. That was in 2002 under Brash/Cwikly. 2006 was the end of JER's second run.

Thanks for clearing that up. Forgot my timelines. I still enjoyed their era, regardless.

2 minutes ago, AbcNbc247 said:

No. That was in 2002 under Brash/Cwikly. 2006 was the end of JER's second run.

Brash/Cwikly were great. I started regularly watching again because of them.

1 hour ago, soapfave06 said:

Somehow got caught in some February and March 2006 episodes and don't recall anyone loving this era with Carrie/Austin/Sami/Lucas quad, Belle/Phillip/Mimi/Shawn quad and Alex/Marlena/John. This was in the days I first started watching so a little nostalgic for me but it's nice to see some atmosphere and mood, I feel like I am watching an actual TV series instead of a Saturday morning cartoon. 

Also has a little Hope/Patrick in the midst of Hope and Bo being apart from Chelsea killing Zach. Kristian Alfonso looks fabulous with the wavy hair. And they had $$$ for an entire island set with a cliff that Hope naturally falls off of. 

One downer: DH as John. The eyebrow is too much as is the whispering. I remember why I once didn't care for him. Oddly enough, John and Marlena are my faves now. 

Perhaps because it has been so long since I watched this time period but everyone looks their absolute best-the hair and wardrobe department as well as aging wise. 

I meant to add, it seems they never have any clue what to do with say Carrie, Belle and Chloe for example. 

Are there missed opportunities? I almost feel like Carrie would be the Christine/Cricket from Y&R of DAYS. 

Another character I wish had returned is Chelsea, I really enjoyed her. Around the time of Bo's death would have been great. 

I thought Christie, Kristian, and especially Deidre looked great during this time period.

The Alex North story had so many problems.  Even though John was correct he came off as an obsessive psycho a lot and Marlena was acting exceptionally dumb as well.

The Carrie/Austin/Lucas/Sami stuff should have been good, but the plot was so stupid.  The show had to work hard to mess up something that should have been a no brainer.  The pregnancy stuff with Austin/Carrie so stupid.

I liked Phillip/Belle/Shawn/Mimi.  I am one of the few that actually really liked Mimi and I thought FF/JC had decent chemistry.

100% agree about Chelsea coming back.  Aside from awful hair choices, Rachel Melvin was great.

It did seem like JER just recycled a lot of the plots from his first run (John/Marlena/Roman, Bo/Hope/Billie, Sami/Lucas/Carrie/Austin, Lexie having an affair), almost as though no time had passed between his two runs. Plus, writing Passions at the same time must have taken a huge toll on him.

10 minutes ago, victoria foxton said:

Brash/Cwikly were great. I started regularly watching again because of them.

I need to go back and watch that era. My memories are a little hazy lol 

I have to say I am enjoying the rehashes of the quads but watching the Bo and Billie scenes in the aftermath of Zacks death and this would have hit different for me with Lisa Rinna's Billie. I didn't care for this Billie even when I was a pre-teen and having seen 90s Billie since, I would have loved the drama. 

I agree on John/Marlena/Alex, John truly came off psycho...they did need a new twist on Carrie/Austin/Sami/Lucas, maybe Carrie should have returned solo and Austin down the line with Will closer to Carrie than Sami, allowing conflict there. The business drama seems stupid as well. 

When did the styling and wardrobe go downhill? I would definitely say the end of 2008, early 2009. Atrocious after that. I would rather they buy and reuse good clothes than have a new cheap wardrobe on the daily. 

16 minutes ago, soapfave06 said:

I have to say I am enjoying the rehashes of the quads but watching the Bo and Billie scenes in the aftermath of Zacks death and this would have hit different for me with Lisa Rinna's Billie. I didn't care for this Billie even when I was a pre-teen and having seen 90s Billie since, I would have loved the drama. 

I agree on John/Marlena/Alex, John truly came off psycho...they did need a new twist on Carrie/Austin/Sami/Lucas, maybe Carrie should have returned solo and Austin down the line with Will closer to Carrie than Sami, allowing conflict there. The business drama seems stupid as well. 

When did the styling and wardrobe go downhill? I would definitely say the end of 2008, early 2009. Atrocious after that. I would rather they buy and reuse good clothes than have a new cheap wardrobe on the daily. 

I think JP's Billie was pretty good.  It was just a thankless role.  Billie had moved so far away from the character Lisa originated that it was hard to reconcile the two.  Billie also became the ultimate loser in love.

The Alex stuff was just awful.  I am embarrassed on WN/DH's behalf that they re-used original Roman/Mar flashbacks for this mess.  John was acting like a lunatic.   He wouldn't even let Marlena breathe let alone get her memories back on her own.  And not that I needed it to matter, but the Roman/Marlena affair and baby had zero impact at all on John/Marlena.  Once she tumbled down those stairs John was just a-okay with everything.  I know it progressed into the amnesia/Alex story, but John never even was that mad about it.  Mess.  I did like John/Kate for a minute though and Jarlena are my faves.

The Sami/Austin/Lucas/Carrie stuff was just juvenile.  They were old enough and been around long enough to recognize the silly Sami/Lucas machinations.  And Carrie/Austin have had so many freaking careers.  At least they seem to have settled on careers for them now and don't even pretend Sami works lol.  It all just seemed like the silliest  90's JER misunderstandings.

I think the show's wardrobe looked through the 2011 reboot.  Everyone still had good hair and clothing for the most part.  I would say it went downhill after that.

 

21 minutes ago, carolineg said:

The Sami/Austin/Lucas/Carrie stuff was just juvenile.  They were old enough and been around long enough to recognize the silly Sami/Lucas machinations.  And Carrie/Austin have had so many freaking careers.  At least they seem to have settled on careers for them now and don't even pretend Sami works lol.  It all just seemed like the silliest  90's JER misunderstandings.

I think that was the issue - it's not wrong re-visiting it, but they couldn't have everyone be THAT naive again; the first time around it sort of made sense because no one knew how far Sami (and Lucas) could go, but the second time around they really should've had a hard time with tricking people. I mean, even Ron had people being clued in that Sami and Lucas were up to something this time around.

4 hours ago, te. said:

I think that was the issue - it's not wrong re-visiting it, but they couldn't have everyone be THAT naive again; the first time around it sort of made sense because no one knew how far Sami (and Lucas) could go, but the second time around they really should've had a hard time with tricking people. I mean, even Ron had people being clued in that Sami and Lucas were up to something this time around.

Well, Austin has always been stupid, but Carrie wasn't.   Carrie has always had a soft spot for Lucas, but she was always wise to Sami's stuff.  And with anything medical, I think Carrie/Austin should know to get a 2nd/3rd/4th opinion considering Sami's acuity at falsifying tests like that.  And just trying to make Sami/Austin a thing is wrong.  That was never the point or goal for that relationship.  

Edited November 15, 20214 yr by carolineg

 

 

This is a question maybe no one really knows but I will ask anyway. When Mark Brooks was revealed to be Tommy Horton, did he continue to go by Mark? Or did he switch to Tommy immediately or was it a gradual thing? 

4 hours ago, will81 said:

This is a question maybe no one really knows but I will ask anyway. When Mark Brooks was revealed to be Tommy Horton, did he continue to go by Mark? Or did he switch to Tommy immediately or was it a gradual thing? 

I can only answer from the scripts. He was listed as Mark through May 1969, then as Tommy from June 1969 onward.

1 hour ago, JAS0N47 said:

I can only answer from the scripts. He was listed as Mark through May 1969, then as Tommy from June 1969 onward.

Oh awesome, thanks, was always wondering  : )

I was thinking about “head writer eras”, and then thinking about 1982-1989, and how I don’t really see that time period associated with a certain head writer. 

That’s kinda crazy, because that’s the era when Days exploded in popularity and was instrumental in creating the “supercouple” trend.  Bo and Hope, Shane and Kim, Roman/John and Marlena, Steve and Kayla, Jennifer and Jack at the tail end… the show was on fire! The writing, production values, and star charisma were all on point.

But we don’t seem to look at this time in any way similar to a “JER era”. I referenced the head writer list from Jason47’s site and I think I see why. It was a rotating series of head writers and mostly CO-head writers.

Margaret DePriest & Sheri Anderson.......4/19/82-9/21/84............
Margaret DePriest, Sheri Anderson & Thom Racina..9/24/84-10/25/84.........
Sheri Anderson & Thom Racina...............10/26/84-11/30/84........ 
Sheri Anderson, Thom Racina & Leah Laiman......12/3/84-11/10/86..........
Thom Racina & Leah Laiman..................11/11/86-11/18/86........ 
Leah Laiman.........................................11/19/86-3/14/89..........

Despite the shift in writers, to me – it’s amazing how the show kept a throughline of maintaining the same “feel” during all those years. Thoughts?

Any chance to get some scripts from the big reveal of Mark being Tommy junior Horton? and everyone's finding out the truth. did Marie and Tommy kiss?