10 hours ago, DRW50 said:

 

I think Larry and Liz did a lot of that scene themselves, so maybe that was an ad-lib between them which carried on.

 

That makes it even more incredible that nearly two years later, that whole bathtub scene would not only occur but lead to this shocking elopement.

15 hours ago, lilyredd said:

So I went back to watch the episode, what memories. I was in grade school when this aired. Marland was quite good at details from year to year. I think this was his best era with ATWT (85-90). I know Lucinda and John were popular, but I liked it better when Lucinda did not like him. Finn Carter was really a natural. 

 

The thing is, Lucinda didn't always dislike John. Lucinda used to taunt John's former wife Karen about being ill-suited to be Mrs. Dr. John Dixon. It seemed to come from a place of jealousy, as if to say that Lucinda herself would have been better suited to be a doctor's wife and that Karen was not good enough for him, I think she as much as said so. This was in '84, early '85. So there was some sort if attraction/revulsion element at work, seemingly from the beginning.

 

The thing that is most unfortunate about what soaps have become over time is that there no longer seems to room for complexity in how characters are written or how they interact. Everything now is so obvious.

Edited April 13, 20214 yr by DramatistDreamer

If you watch New Amsterdam, there's a familiar face tonight.

 

Spoiler

 

 

There were some episodes from 1985 where there was tension between Lyla and Lucinda..partly due to Craig..but also in small part due to John.

 

Pre Marland, were Lily and Lucinda closer..or was the poor little rich girl element already there?

1 hour ago, Soaplovers said:

Pre Marland, were Lily and Lucinda closer..or was the poor little rich girl element already there?

 

Here is a pre-Marland episode where you can judge for yourself what state you think Lily and Lucinda's relationship is in.

 

Love the Lucinda/Barbara stuff here.

 

 

On 4/13/2021 at 6:45 PM, DramatistDreamer said:

 

Here is a pre-Marland episode where you can judge for yourself what state you think Lily and Lucinda's relationship is in.

 

This episode is on one of the DVD releases.

Question: When ATWT used AOL's online portal to stream episodes of their show, were those episodes uploaded as digitized episodes, or were they analog episodes that were streamed digitally on AOL's service?

Does anyone know?

2 hours ago, DramatistDreamer said:

Question: When ATWT used AOL's online portal to stream episodes of their show, were those episodes uploaded as digitized episodes, or were they analog episodes that were streamed digitally on AOL's service?

Does anyone know?

 

 

 

PS: (I couldn't resist meme-quoting but hope you do get your answer)

 

 

1 hour ago, FrenchBug82 said:

 

 

 

PS: (I couldn't resist meme-quoting but hope you do get your answer)

 

Gotta love Lucille Bluth!

 

I'm really curious, mainly because P&G has used the old excuse that digitizing their episodes would be too much work but I suspect that the workload, while not insignificant, is likely less than what they claim it is. Certainly, had they allowed the SoapClassics people to continue their work of digitization of episodes in 2012, they certainly would've made considerable progress by now.

 

Could you have imagined how many episodes that could've been in a ten year span? I imagine that, at the very least, some of the most requested episodes in the show: last 30 years would have been digitized and either uploaded to their website or sold as DVDs/downloads. That would have been incredible!

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(Hayley Barr)

 

The 1980 and 1981 AW episodes that ran on the AOL portal are still around on Youtube - they may help you as a guide, I don't know.

I doubt that would provide the answer l, but thanks for responding anyway.

Maybe if Alan Locher (or somebody) has a livestream with ATWT producers like he did with GL, I could ask? I wouldn't watch the whole thing but I might watch long enough to ask the question and bounce, lol.

On 4/6/2021 at 4:03 AM, Soapsuds said:

 

 

Quick question - that opening intro... how long did they use that for? Hadn’t that been around since 1981 or something? I’m surprised they were still using it in 1992...

16 minutes ago, OzFrog said:

 

Quick question - that opening intro... how long did they use that for? Hadn’t that been around since 1981 or something? I’m surprised they were still using it in 1992...

 

There were some minor tweaks that go unnoticed by most people but having studied music, I can tell. I will say that the basic melody stayed the same. If you ask me the theme song actually got worse when they changed it some years later. I never understood why they just do a variation of this or the first theme song to make more contemporary.

 

Technically, Y&R has had the same basic theme for decades, so having the same basic theme was not the problem, if you tweak it in the right ways to update it in a way that works.

11 minutes ago, DramatistDreamer said:

 

There were some minor tweaks that go unnoticed by most people but having studied music, I can tell. I will say that the basic melody stayed the same. If you ask me the theme song actually got worse when they changed it some years later. I never understood why they just do a variation of this or the first theme song to make more contemporary.

 

 

 

Yeah, the early version of the 1981 theme has a sort of high, metallic, harpsichord sound, which disappeared by the late 1980s.  

8 minutes ago, Broderick said:

 

Yeah, the early version of the 1981 theme has a sort of high, metallic, harpsichord sound, which disappeared by the late 1980s.  

 

Yup, by 1988, they had tweaked the theme song. They also removed most of the percussive elements from the song, which I didn't care for, at all. It sounded overly synthesized, overly "produced". If anything, they should've stripped it down a bit. Added strings, the sound of a piano, changed the pace, either slower or a bit quicker. 

Ironically, the variations on the theme song that they sometimes did within actual scenes were usually very lovely.

Lucinda: "Big, dumb cop". 😂

Shannon mocking Duncan by mimicking his laugh always struck me as funny every time she did it.