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Y&R: Episode discussion, week of January 4

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Sharon Newman (or is it Munroe now?) is the dumbest soap character in existance right now and Im saying that as a fan of hers.

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So, I hear where you are coming from. But they (Bill Bell!) paired their "prime jewel" Heather Tom with Kristoff St. John.

And then Jack Smith put Phyllis with Damon.

So I think you're really talking -- specifically -- about the LML/MAB regimes, right?

Yes and chickened out on HT and KSJ. Phyllis would be the "choice" for "those" pairings in a very retro-racist soap climate

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Sharon never had any independent career or friends until LML, right?

Sharon had a career & friends LONG before LML.

But given that Sharon was always on the arms of a man, and always in some romantic/domestic conundrum

THAT describes Giggly Heffa.

Many of you speak of Sharon as "slut" or "ruined", but I find Sharon's place in life to be a very plausible evolution of a woman who built her life around her teenage lover and young family--and then really had nothing else in her life when that imploded.

Sharon had plenty of a life after her divorce but TPTB's agendas ruined it.

I think it is a real indictment of the current regime (and LML) that no death since (and there have been plenty) has had the same resonance or lasting impact. And no--John/Brad/Colleen don't count.

Not when that death is solely used to keep an inane triangle alive long beyond it's expiration date.

I'm not even sure if Sharon can be traced back to the continuity of a few months ago. All the time spent on how this Shick miracle baby was going to be a blessing to their lives, and was sent from Cassie, and then when the baby "dies", Sharon barely grieves.

I think Sharon just goes whichever way the plot tells her to go. They said Brad's death made her steal and sleep around. Then they said it was based on her teenage years. Then they said it was based on Cassie. I think they just enjoy the idea of Sharon having sex with all these different men and being the lost soul Nick has to save.

Pretty much!

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They value Sharon far too much to pair her with non-white Neil. I thought the two showed smoking chemistry post-Dru's death, but I never expected to see it utilized. I guarentee you that story would've been better than anything with Jack/Sharon, Billy/Sharon, Brad/Sharon or this mess with Adam.

Yep.

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So, I hear where you are coming from. But they (Bill Bell!) paired their "prime jewel" Heather Tom with Kristoff St. John.

ALDEN paired them & they were ONLY a prop for Cole.

And then Jack Smith put Phyllis with Damon.

Worst. Decision. Ever.

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Wow... so now Katherine is a total moron? this is getting more ridiculous by the DAY.

TPTB need to stop acting like Tucker isn't her son.

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Sharon Newman (or is it Munroe now?) is the dumbest soap character in existance right now and Im saying that as a fan of hers.

She was never even a hated favorite of mine but right now she is a pretty "ugly person" to look at and even harder to listen to (and she 's a pretty girl). As a male Phick fan who was in the supermarket checkout line with his wife said while we were waiting to pay for groceries and our new CBS SID magazine, Sharon has become a "mongrel who inbreeds" :blink::lol::lol: - I nearly died laughing. :lol: I am assuming because he is a veterinarian that he knows what he is talking about, I dared not ask him though I think I got the meaning. They can try to whitewash her behaviour with some trumped up illness (**cough, cough..NoNickInTheBedItis**) because Sharon always gets an excuse no matter what. But it appears her # is being called.

As for Phick/Shick, we are now in a triangle that will last forever or until the show ends! :lol: Alas there will be no endgame because you have two really popular couples here so I guess they will take turns playing their beats. Only hope these writers can make it longer than a bloody 6-month arc. Sharon's only purpose on the show at the moment is apparently to be the biggest McGuffin there is - they just drop her into plots with no real follow through, just smoke & mirrors. As for Nick, Phyllis and Phick, I love where they appear to be going - the writers have built some stuff around them that isn't tunnel-visioned to just Phick/Shick.

All I have to say is poor Noah!!

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I think Sharon has become like the person who uses religion for the wrong purpose. Anything she does is somehow justified by Cassie, what Cassie would want, Cassie's loss. It would be one thing if the show presented this behavior as unhealthy, but instead, they use it to justify random plot twists. This just makes the pain of her death seem less and less real, and more and more cynical.

Seeing Shick use their dead daughter to justify whoring around, and Nick repeatedly using Sharon for sex when he knew she was mentally ill, is possibly the tackiest thing I have ever seen on this show.

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I think Sharon has become like the person who uses religion for the wrong purpose. Anything she does is somehow justified by Cassie, what Cassie would want, Cassie's loss. It would be one thing if the show presented this behavior as unhealthy, but instead, they use it to justify random plot twists. This just makes the pain of her death seem less and less real, and more and more cynical.

Seeing Shick use their dead daughter to justify whoring around, and Nick repeatedly using Sharon for sex when he knew she was mentally ill, is possibly the tackiest thing I have ever seen on this show.

That's the reason I wasn't as upset as other viewers when Adam broke Cassie's picture. I was so sick of Cassie's death as a means for her parents to get back together or to boink that I didn't care if her damn picture broke.

Noah is way to well adjusted to be the son of Nick and Sharon. It's sad that he is more mature than both his parents.

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Noah and Phyllis need to dump these three yo-yos and just move in together. Never thought I'd ever be writing that. But hey, at least they get along and give each other support and somewhat sage advice.

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Noah and Phyllis need to dump these three yo-yos and just move in together. Never thought I'd ever be writing that. But hey, at least they get along and give each other support and somewhat sage advice.

So hot!! Seriously! And BOY would that drive story!

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So hot!! Seriously! And BOY would that drive story!

It's also a bad episode of "Law & Order: Special Victims Unit" waiting to happen.

(Seriously, isn't Noah Newman still underaged?)

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Reconsidered whether my response to Khan better belonged in Sylph's new "Potpourri" thread...so I moved it there.

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Once again soap operas write that the kidnapped baby is better off with the new mother than with the birth mother. So Sharon actually thinks she and Adam are the normal/right ones? She should be shacking up with Patty.

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