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  1. The tone of the this show is dark. The fact is there is a wide range of actual values throughout American culture and people play by their own rules in many instances. This still shocks people I guess. This show is dark in tone but with much satire and camp to lighten it up
  2. I agree Completely agreed!
  3. This is important because I just know that one of the main characters will have to be sacrificed in order for the story and the draw of the audience to stay consistent
  4. Enjoying the show, but I still don't know the names by heart except (Cersei- and I agree exceptional actress). I guess when they say it on the show I know who's who though
  5. It's kind of messed up for the show I'm thinking that they offered the epi before it's premiere. I love that Tami's on the show she just turned it up a knotch! So many quotables
  6. This show is fuull of so much "hoodrat in nice settings" drama. Tami Loves how Royce stands up for herself Evelyn talks alot of smack, thinks she's too much, and is slutty but she brings alot of the drama. They are so trashy. But watching
  7. Yes very welll written scene this one to me. It said enough to establish the true character dynamics but put more intrigue into the character fo Cersei for me, who revolts me as the layers are being peeled back but somehow I'm trying to see where she's coming from
  8. lol I have so many books to read it's not even funny. I will add this to my itinerary for the summer. Right now I'm pretty swamped between work and school. TV's just the easier break when I get a chance........
  9. Never thought that I would love this far more than Borgias but it's happening...... Wish I had read the books
  10. wow what a beautiful brialliantly organic scene. everything came together flawlessly inclduing the BM. They were all so amazing and that was enhanced by every element. Every one of them brough their A game to this
  11. Yeah I think Frank's place on the show is wierd. At this point he's written and potrayed in a way where it is known he isn't to be loved (though you can understand why the kids love him and hate him all at the sametime) but tehre's a need for him to be explored and maybe a possibility of understanding
  12. I actually meant to type that it is the same premise however there is are various differences in the writing approaches; which are the differences I pointed out. I don't know why I kept thinking Shameless was a movie, I remember seeing it a while ago and maybe I just caught one epi or something I don't know. Interesting observation, it's interesting how quickly I began to question the character of Steve and embraced Tony's bit of Darkness as soon as the events were unfolding but it is open ended and can go either way that was good writing. That was a brilliant epiphany played out and written, I love that the character of Karen came full circle. I would have more appreciated Karen's ultimate jump into darkness though if the father wasn't written so flatly. I feel like besides the way it was timed and executed, the events leading to the conclusion of the first season for the character of Karen (i.e. her sleeping w/Frank, broadcasting it on the internet, practically isolating herself) makes sense, but the pacing was a bit off for me. I would have understood it, if I saw more of where the father was coming from. I kinda wanted to make my own full decision on the father myself and not have the show tell me who the character is without my interpretation. It wasn't bad, it was just a bit in my face and unsubtle in its developments . Though I still think that father-daughter purity scene was dark, wrong, perverted and brilliant! I so want them to develop the character of Veronica more and I am wondering about the effect of Fiona and Veronica's dynamic with the addition of this mysterious chick with an unclear agenda.
  13. No it adds an allamerican twisted sense of humor to it, the characters are pretty much within the same elments as they are defined on the UK version, but the writing for this gravely differs by the sense of humor, the sense of culture it brings, and it manages to surprise you somehow. **edit**8 I'm not sure if Sheila was apart of the original but J.Cusack rock it in her role here
  14. That left me like . I love that the writers have such a sense of humor though
  15. *Edit* I totally meant Fiona and Ian here, sorry. I want them to flesh out the Veronica character just a bit more. I kinda understand White and Wiggins (their character's) dynamic, it's like an understanding of each other beyond the defense mechanisms. It's, in a yucky kind of way, what a relationship should and shouldn't be rolled into one. I mean as the girlfriend you shouldn't do the father (but remember he had her try to to do it to Ian too), but it's like ,in an essence of true love ,forgiveness has to happen and understanding has to happen and sympathy has to happen. It was touching in a gross sort of way. Also I see the dynamic of Frank and Ian was supposed to connect and lead to the Ian paternity issue but How is LIAM (the last obviosuly of AA descent) Frank's? I though for sure Ian and Lip managed to mess with the paternity results
  16. Yes let's discuss, I loved that scene between Fiona and Liam they are really incredible young talents (Rossum& Monaghan). The set up and lighting (stage design) set the mood and her pause before her "I know" had me like , I wasn't expecting that. I thought maybe they were coming from a "mothers always know" angle. White is a gem too, I loved his scenes with Wiggins where he declared he loved her during sex and then practically had a mini breakdown at what occured. I love Wiggins too, the writing for her character worries me a bit because they take her all over the place it seems, but her scenes of confession at the father daughter thing was well written and well acted. The sleeper here though is Kenney her scenes confronting Steve for being Jimmy made me feel like I was wacthing a grown woman catching and confronting her sister's boyfriend in his lies, she was so saavy it was like a seasoned vet reaching a character turning point in both directions. It was strange watching the character regress back into being a child easily manipulated again by Steve/Jimmy, but I get it. She plays conflicted very well, and I feel sympathy fotr her having tod eal with emotions she's not ready for Sir Macy as Frank. Frank is a drunk narcissist but I agree with Julia he's wierdly the glue that holds the cast of charcters together with their drives/motivations and situations. When he goes off into one of his many speeches, it's wierd how it's written, it's like three points are met each time 1)Frank's selfish 2) Frank's a narcissist liar 3) Frank's lazy but he may not be as dum as he looks, and then the overlying issue is Frank's a drunk
  17. Yes we havn't dived too deep too fast; but they are really taking their time here to remove the layers of these characters
  18. Based on the movie Shameless produced in 2004.I love all the soapy techniques applied to this series. It just showed me the soap format can work if they incorporate the classic mix of proper storytelling elements: Dilemmas, matters of the heart, moral compass, character driven- well timed stories with multiple arcs etcetcetc. The biggest difference I see are the kinds of characters we care about, and of course on Showtime you can totally make its undertones much darker with a touch of light comedy to lighten it, and these collection of young actors/actresses and sir MACY (William H.)are doing a bang up job. Anyone here watches?
  19. This discussion is hilarious and oh so appreciated. Out of all the Spelling production this one is closest to my heart. Throught all it's wrongs and it's rights. It had a great bleand of everything I needed in that time, true classic for me. I found this picture interesting also. I wondered how many backstage jokes came out of this shoot. I loved Kelly /Brandon way more than kelly/Dylan. I loved that whole dynamic and just always found it interesting that Brandon would look at Kelly for relationship and wanted them to explore other factors in question through tthe relationship. I loved Valerie, I liked Brenda but I think Valerie character brought more depth to the gang on a whole. I loved her dynamic with Kelly and let me see Kelly being snooty for the first time. I agree witht he poster that said they never got what the guys saw in Donna but I do remember how much I dug drunk Donna. I liked Claire but hated that they paired her with Steve for so long I never got it. I hated that they weren't ever able to bring a black major player on canvas, that sucked for me. I stopped being interested when Valerie left, errr well even before that when Brndon and Kelly were to get married and they rewrote it as if they weren't into each other, I didn't buy it never bought that she was more into Dylan either.
  20. James Morrison- if you don't wanna love me
  21. James Morrison- Precious Love Loving this whole album
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