Members EricMontreal22 Posted November 23, 2009 Members Share Posted November 23, 2009 I dunno how Rayfield could have so blatantly stupid as to introduce SOOOOoOOOO many new characters with no ties to the canvas--soap opera writing 101. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Vee Posted November 23, 2009 Members Share Posted November 23, 2009 They were clearly hired guns. It was the most blatant Frons makeover of any soap, and I suspect it's still the most blatant portrayal of what his tastes would have preferred for the ABC soaps. It did not feel like anything else I'd ever seen, it seemed to change overnight, and I still haven't seen anything like it since. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DRW50 Posted November 23, 2009 Members Share Posted November 23, 2009 When I think about that era I always remember Laurie, bland JR's even blander girlfriend (made slightly tolerable by her attractive father). And that awful Fusion fantasy episode, with the bits like Bianca the superhero saving Maggie. Some stuff was OK I guess, Joanie and Reggie had a lot of potential. So much of it was just so flat. And then Boyd, or Boi-d, and the laughable attempts to make us think he was straight... They did gun down Chris Stamp, didn't they? Good for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members EricMontreal22 Posted November 23, 2009 Members Share Posted November 23, 2009 Don't forget the Chins who ownedthe Chinese restaurant Joe had been eating his lunches at for years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Vee Posted November 23, 2009 Members Share Posted November 23, 2009 I actually liked poor Henry and wish they'd kept him. But Jesus Christ, people. It's one of daytime's only Asian families - you name them the Chins and they run a Chinese restaurant?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DRW50 Posted November 23, 2009 Members Share Posted November 23, 2009 And then Henry used poor Maggie so he could cheat on a test, because he was under such pressure. The drama. And he reappeared, months later, for a brief bit where he said his band was touring around the world. That was all so painfully earnest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Steve Posted November 23, 2009 Members Share Posted November 23, 2009 I loved Liza's brain tumor story when it was revealed she had been siphoning money from Chandler Enterprises. It was the last time she felt like Adam's equal. I never thought there was a doubt that Vanessa was Proteus. The only question was if she was faking the split personality or not. It also felt to me that Culliton was building up to the reveal of Leo's father being Eric Kane but that story ended with Leo & Vanessa's deaths. ITA. Rayfield's tenure was hands down the worst with all the new characters and simplistic storytelling. The show improved slightly when Cascio joined him, but still wasn't as good as it had been under Culliton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Kylie Posted November 23, 2009 Members Share Posted November 23, 2009 Vanessa as Proteus totally worked. I thought her splitting into all of those personalities was real, and it was her cracking under the pressure. She'd always walked a fine line, IMO, and this just set her over the edge. I loved Rosie Wells, because I think that was the Vanessa she wanted to be, and could never quite become. (Sorry, I absolutely adored Vanessa) I thought it was a massive cop out and a total rewrite of history to have Charles Hayward be the original Proteus, but in an odd way, it does work. (Did David ever find out that little tidbit? I can't remember?) Something had to go on backstage that stopped them from making Leo Eric Kane's son, because the foundation for that had been laid for years. They seemed to cement it even more when they had Vanessa be a witness to Richard Fields raping Erica, at Eric Kane's house. Plus, Vanessa's need to be a star, Eric being a movie producer, etc. It was all there, but for some reason they pulled back. If we ever see Vanessa again, or even a Leo recast I'd love them to pick that storyline up. Erica liked Leo (he lived with her for a time), and I think it would a great story for her to have a brother, on the canvas, who she knew and loved and had in her life on a daily basis. Plus, I think Erica and David sharing a brother is a fun little twist as well. LOL! Would have made Erica Greenlee's sister-n-law. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members EricMontreal22 Posted November 23, 2009 Members Share Posted November 23, 2009 Yeah when McTavish came in, for a few months anyway, the show looked like Shakespeare by comparison (we also initially got several of great, LONG scenes--something that was quickly dropped--one great one that I saved was David and Anna coming to terms with the loss of Leora) That said I do think Passanante's solo tenure was maybe right up there with Rayfield though for slightly different reasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members All My Shadows Posted November 23, 2009 Members Share Posted November 23, 2009 Culliton wrote the Trey stuff, correct? I enjoyed more than I probably should have and still eagerly await his return. No deriding of Rayfield's whack tenure is complete without a mention of Carhlosss and Hjuan Pabhlo. Remember when Carlos took Greenlee to The Pit (or was it SOS?) late at night to show her "his world," and Maxi-pad Alexander Lipps Inc.'d to some bland boy band song? And Jesus Christ, Andrew Ridings JR...good God. The boy had no upper lip. It simply vanished. As did he, because every now and then I Google him and come up with absolutely NOTHING. Wasn't he the one who posted some not-so-nice things about the fans who weren't fond of his acting "skills?" I terribly miss the sets from that era though...the previous Chandler mansion with the matching staircase, the boathouse was nice, we saw Brooke and Myrtle's houses on a fairly regular basis, as well as Joe and Ruth's house. The Valley Inn was still the place to be, with the dining room, the bar, and the guest rooms being featured almost everyday. Do we still see the Pine Cone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DeeeDee Posted November 23, 2009 Members Share Posted November 23, 2009 David destroying the crib was awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DeeeDee Posted November 23, 2009 Members Share Posted November 23, 2009 Don't forget Everyone's Related To Leo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members R Sinclair Posted November 23, 2009 Members Share Posted November 23, 2009 Ugh! Culliton sucked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DeeeDee Posted November 23, 2009 Members Share Posted November 23, 2009 Ryan & Liza. Ugh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members IMissAremid Posted November 23, 2009 Members Share Posted November 23, 2009 I want a countdown clock to when Pratt's crap is off the air. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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