I too did not see any hint of shade from LW. Zero. She was classy. 
 

I had to laugh at Wes Ramsey’s ‘poetry’. Poetry is all about subtext, images, saying something while meaning another. That piece was a long Instagram caption. 
 

I’ve been meaning to ask- was Ken Reade (Holly’s brother) a retcon or had he been on the show before?

4 minutes ago, Aback said:

I too did not see any hint of shade from LW. Zero. She was classy. 
 

I had to laugh at Wes Ramsey’s ‘poetry’. Poetry is all about subtext, images, saying something while meaning another. That piece was a long Instagram caption. 
 

I’ve been meaning to ask- was Ken Reade (Holly’s brother) a retcon or had he been on the show before?

 

Ken was on the show in the early to mid '70s. 

 

I did like Wes on GL (although the push in the press about him being the new Michael Zaslow really annoyed me and made me sour on him initially) but the best thing he's ever done was when he took off his clothes in various '00s indie movies. 

Edited April 24, 20205 yr by DRW50

1 hour ago, DRW50 said:

I did like Wes on GL (although the push in the press about him being the new Michael Zaslow really annoyed me and made me sour on him initially) but the best thing he's ever done was when he took off his clothes in various '00s indie movies. 

 

Mmmmm.... Latter Days... mmmm 😋

3 minutes ago, OzFrog said:

 

Mmmmm.... Latter Days... mmmm 😋

 

And some other movie about porn actors, that also had Jessica Leccia (Natalia). It's not as explicit as it sounds - it wasn't too bad a movie either. I haven't seen it in about ten years though.

13 hours ago, Khan said:

 

Same.  No offense to Signy Coleman or her fans, but I don't believe she was the best fit for recast Annie.  They would have been much better off bringing her on as a new and altogether different character.

 

 

And maybe have Holly's brother, Ken, empathize with her and form some sort of father/daughter-type bond with her as she faced the consequences of her actions.

She was a terrible Annie but it was also too soon to go to that well which had run dry near Watros leaving.  MADD loved her formula and if she thought something worked she just repeated and repeated...

 

I thought her character should have been a nut that Annie seduced (I would have it be real but we could leave it ambiguous) into going back to SF for revenge. Maybe she was a cop obsessed with Annie and assigned to catching but obsessed with her.  Or just a nut who thinks she is Annie but is not. 

 

I love how Newman was making fun of that storyline and the infamous "Sit DOWN, Josh!"

 

Having Ken form a bond with Annie would be way too deep and complex for Rauch/Madd.

 

 

22 hours ago, Mitch said:

The cool thing about Zimmer is that she can..in hindsight, admit fault.  I do think that she sees and appreciates talent but it had to have been hard to have Watros looking at her best, getting so much screen time and fun stuff to do and getting accolades. I think it also hurt her that the Annie story got more attention then the year previously when Reva came back from the dead.  It also was a time that Kimmer was aging and while looking good was a 20 something babe anymore in Rauchie's sexist GL with all the younger babes like Watros and Chamberlin running around. At the time she gave an interview where she had to say something like "Tsk, tsk Cassie" and she said..."They are indeed turning me into Bert Bauer." Plus Zimmer comes off as someone who just gets along with guys better.

 

Wright was very very aggressive and ambitious and wanted Cassie to always be in the spolight and in the right, (the famous interview where she would go drinking with B & E and suggest changes and story.) I always thought they should have written Cassie closer to Wright, a bitch that could cut you if she didnt get her own way.  Chappel, well she had problems with GA and I loved Liv but she could be a backstabber when she needed to be. Im on team Zimmer on that one.

 

 

Have to wonder how she felt bout Forbes!

2 minutes ago, rlj said:

Have to wonder how she felt bout Forbes!

 

I think there was some tension there as Michelle became very prominent, very very quickly. It was also a very demanding storyline. Kim mentioned in some interviews about how difficult the big climax to the Sonni/Solita story was, taking place on a rope bridge, how frightened she was because of how nervous Forbes was, and how she (Kim) had to take several swigs of vodka to get through.

23 hours ago, Mitch said:

Wright was very very aggressive and ambitious and wanted Cassie to always be in the spolight and in the right, (the famous interview where she would go drinking with B & E and suggest changes and story.) I always thought they should have written Cassie closer to Wright, a bitch that could cut you if she didnt get her own way.  Chappel, well she had problems with GA and I loved Liv but she could be a backstabber when she needed to be. Im on team Zimmer on that one.

Chappel had problems with GA? I’d love to hear more. Phillip and Olivia were my favorite couple (until Conboy came in). 

Who didn’t Chappel have problems with? rme

4 hours ago, VanessaReardon said:

Who didn’t Chappel have problems with? rme

Well she did lure half the cast to join her web soap, which led me to believe she was well liked...

Ah, maybe. Or maybe they were just desperate for a job. Any job. It’s not like any of them are setting the acting world on fire.  

 

I know the old story was that Elvera Roussell was fired to show that anyone could be fired (which if true shows the lack of logic going on with Kobe and P&G considering she'd only been on the show 4 years and they ended up dumping most of the characters on the canvas anyway...), but she still had a lot to give - it seems like she was becoming more and more interesting as she left.

8 hours ago, DRW50 said:

 

I know the old story was that Elvera Roussell was fired to show that anyone could be fired (which if true shows the lack of logic going on with Kobe and P&G considering she'd only been on the show 4 years and they ended up dumping most of the characters on the canvas anyway...), but she still had a lot to give - it seems like she was becoming more and more interesting as she left.

 

What before she left in November 1983...Pam Long seemed like she was starting a war of the Rose's divorce story with Alan and Hope..than poof.. Hope was gone. 

 

After the way Marland diluted Hope..it seemed as if Long was finally caught giving Hope some character again.

 

It seemed like Kobe was more the problem than Long during this time frame.

Didn't Ken Norris have some type of bad blood with Ed Bauer?

15 hours ago, Aback said:

Well she did lure half the cast to join her web soap, which led me to believe she was well liked...

 

She also had issues on DAYS. Yet she also had a ton of friends there. So ... it can go both ways, lol. I'd hang out with both her and Zimmer as they get drunk and spill the tea ...

 

It's really sad so many leading ladies have "issues" with each other, that are likely blown vastly out of proportion.

Edited April 25, 20205 yr by KMan101