4 hours ago, marceline said:

And yes, the people who took Obama for granted and didn't fight to protect his legacy are the reason we are here today.

 

Which is why I believe the next non-Caucasian president -- and yes, there WILL be another non-Caucasian president someday -- will be as exalted (even more than Obama) as Washington, Lincoln and Kennedy.

 

Remember, Martin Luther King, Jr. didn't live long enough to see us reach the "promised land" that was the passage of the Civil Rights acts, but he DID get us most of the way.  That's how I've always felt about Obama.  

In the meantime, many people will suffer.

 

One example-

Just weeks after the Trump administration struck down an Obama-era regulation that had given nursing home patients the right to sue in cases of abuse, another patient has died from that Florida nursing home disaster in the days following Hurricane Irma (the one where many patients died of heatstroke and heat related illnesses after being left in the heat without AC).

 

Obama rules would have allowed surviving patients and families of the deceased to sue. Now under Trump, not so much.

Very sad.

Not much of a shock here, but Tom Price is out:

 

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/09/29/price-has-resigned-as-health-and-human-services-secretary-243315

 

Even if the ACA is pretty heavily damaged, it makes me smile that it outlasted the man we heard was chosen specifically to kill it. 

Glad to hear Price is one. One down. Many more to go. I am praying that Mnuchin is next. 

I'm glad to see Price gone as well.

I hope the next to go is Pruitt. He's obviously a lunatic and he's in a position to poison our air and water.

 

Off topic: I just realized that I'm not seeing posts from this thread showing up in the "recent posts" side bar anymore. Nor posts from the Music & Movies thread. It looks like only the DTS forum shows up now. I'm grateful for that. It keep the trolls away from this thread and reduces the possibility of being accidentally spoiled just by visiting the home page.

22 minutes ago, marceline said:

I hope the next to go is Pruitt. He's obviously a lunatic and he's in a position to poison our air and water.

 

Supposedly he's just there to build support for when he runs for governor of Oklahoma, so I guess he'll probably only go (barring a scandal) if Trump becomes hated by the base. 

2 hours ago, DramatistDreamer said:

In the meantime, many people will suffer.

 

That's the truth. I do believe things will be better someday, but a lot of people are going to pay the price over the next four years (minimum).  It's horrific to see all the areas that Trump and his ilk are doing the worst thing possible.

 

I saw that someone leaked Trump had no plan at all to help Puerto Rico until he saw public sentiment was building against him.

Seriously the incompetence in this administration is astounding and is now physically hurting people. but their stupidity, incompetence is frankly sociopathic. The acting Head of Homeland Security is running around telling people this is a good news story, the advisor to HS Bossert is saying that putting a 3 star general in Puerto Rico right after the hurricane hit would have been a waste. And FEMA is telling people that they have to register for aide using the internet or a phone, neither of which is usable there. Water and food were there but sitting on barges waiting to be trucked out but no truck drivers, no one to organize the effort or clear the roads to get to people, and Trump is running around talking about how much debt they have.

 

Now it's likely there will be a cholera breakout due to lack of clean water for over 9 days. The one time I will give the media credit. They have been on point on this since the hurricane hit and I fear had they not been making this front and center for all Americans to see and hear about, how much more this crisis would have been sidelined.

 

Edited September 30, 20178 yr by JaneAusten

^ I wish to god Canada or Germany (or anyone) had sent aid boats to Puerto Rico right after the storm just to make it even clearer what an incompetent liar we have in office.  Seeing their mayor do that interview with a shirt that Read "help us we are dying" should make us all ashamed on some level. 

Edited September 30, 20178 yr by Juliajms

That people elected this man, it's indefensible, honestly.

 

"The loss of life, it's always tragic. But it's been incredible. The results that we've had with respect to loss of life." pic.twitter.com/S9ffJJqKdj

— Salvador Hernandez (@SalHernandez) September 29, 2017

Yep. This is why I say that there's nothing wrong with ridiculing his voters. History will hold them in the same regard as it does the people who voted for the Nazis.

I'm stunned! How can he be so completely clueless?  

 

On another note, right at this very moment there's complete chaos in Gothenburg here in Sweden. The nazi march taking place today has, as expected, deteriorated into violence. Police reinforcements have been called in from all over the country, and the Norwegian border police have been alerted as well. The nazis number around 500, but according to sources more than 10000 people have gathered to protest against them.

 

1 hour ago, I Am A Swede said:

The nazis number around 500, but according to sources more than 10000 people have gathered to protest against them.

 

I'm sorry the march has deteriorated into violence, but I'm glad to know so many came out to protest against the Nazis.

 

2 hours ago, marceline said:

Yep. This is why I say that there's nothing wrong with ridiculing his voters. History will hold them in the same regard as it does the people who voted for the Nazis.

 

This morning, Mama Khan talked about how, in the Bible, the Israelites cried out to God for a king, so God delivered them Saul.  Her point?  Sometimes, you get the leaders you deserve.

Edited September 30, 20178 yr by Khan

Ok I m frankly tired iod people holding up George Bush s some paragon of virtue. I admit to my own guilt in some capacity but its time we stop pretending that the delay in New Orlleans was not tied to the same reason's there is a delay in Puerto Rico.  Bush's administration is some ways was the more competent version of Trump and they actually got a major attack on our soil to use as leverage for much of their awfulness.