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I'm a political glutton for punishment. I can't help but wonder what former posters Max and Alphanguy are thinking about this election.

 

I've been thinking about that as well.  I'd add Brian to the mix.

 

This thread needs a conservative voice.

 

 

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FWIW: I've checked out Reddit and the Berniebros, and many of them seem to actually be happier with Clinton because of the leaked comments (and Bernie's ringing endorsement this morning).

 

The tax thing is a catastrophe on top of other disasters for Trump. Don't kid yourself. It's yuuuge and everyone knows it. And Trump not releasing is spitting in the face of the minimum standard of respect expected by the American public. We now know he didn't release them because he hasn't paid jack.

I'm not kidding myself in regards to anything. I'm pretty sure he didn't pay any taxes and it honestly isn't any of my business.

 

I think this whole brouhaha is a media controversy at its core. I don't care if it's democrats or republicans I  rarely see the need to see someone else's taxes. The whole public has a right to now thing Is just bs that the media has concocted and hidden behind for ages.

 

And it would be so nice to have a reasonable conservative voice around here. Even if it's just to debate tax policy and economics. 

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I'm not kidding myself in regards to anything. I'm pretty sure he didn't pay any taxes and it honestly isn't any of my business.

 

I think this whole brouhaha is a media controversy at its core. I don't care if it's democrats or republicans I  rarely see the need to see someone else's taxes. The whole public has a right to now thing Is just bs that the media has concocted and hidden behind for ages.

 

And it would be so nice to have a reasonable conservative voice around here. Even if it's just to debate tax policy and economics. 

It becomes our business mostly when someone runs based on economic stewardship. We now find out that his idea of economic stewardship is apparently declaring a billion dollar loss. I thought conservatives hated that type of thing? 

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I'm a political glutton for punishment. I can't help but wonder what former posters Max and Alphanguy are thinking about this election.

 

I've been thinking about that as well.  I'd add Brian to the mix.

 

This thread needs a conservative voice.

 

 

No, it doesn't.

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FWIW: I've checked out Reddit and the Berniebros, and many of them seem to actually be happier with Clinton because of the leaked comments (and Bernie's ringing endorsement this morning).

 

The tax thing is a catastrophe on top of other disasters for Trump. Don't kid yourself. It's yuuuge and everyone knows it. And Trump not releasing is spitting in the face of the minimum standard of respect expected by the American public. We now know he didn't release them because he hasn't paid jack.

I'm not kidding myself in regards to anything. I'm pretty sure he didn't pay any taxes and it honestly isn't any of my business.

 

I think this whole brouhaha is a media controversy at its core. I don't care if it's democrats or republicans I  rarely see the need to see someone else's taxes. The whole public has a right to now thing Is just bs that the media has concocted and hidden behind for ages.

 

And it would be so nice to have a reasonable conservative voice around here. Even if it's just to debate tax policy and economics. 

The taxes are more about transparency, conflict of interest, and validation of some financial stability. You may not personally be interested, but it's one common element we all have that can be looked at to at least partially validate those things.  Mitt Romney got criticized for his low tax rate but I don't think much else and honestly I had no gripe with it myself. But when someone sells their key expertise as being successful in business as one of their assets in being president, than I don't believe reviewing their tax returns is a huge demand. Particularly when many already know his shady business history, and what he himself has said about "freeloaders(the 47 percent). Plus there should be concerns about his business interests in terms of interacting with foreign countries. His coziness with Russia is still very shady IMO and likely lies with financial backing he got from there which we really don't know much about. And it's common practice for the last 40 years and he was all over Romney 4 years ago for not releasing his until he did.

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This week: Obama in FL, Bill in OH/MI, Biden in FL, Michelle in NC, Bernie in IA/MN/WI, Elizabeth in NV

 

 

 

That's great; however, I need one of them to come to GA and tilt the damn scales in HRC's favor. HRC is practically thisclose to winning GA. They need to get on it.

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You think so NBA? I was hopeful during the Senate race in 2012 with what's her name Michelle Nunn but she lost badly from what I can recall. Still tho the polls are pretty eye popping and she's consistently within 4 points so I do wonder if there's enough vote in ATL to take her over the top....

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This week: Obama in FL, Bill in OH/MI, Biden in FL, Michelle in NC, Bernie in IA/MN/WI, Elizabeth in NV

 

 

 

That's great; however, I need one of them to come to GA and tilt the damn scales in HRC's favor. HRC is practically thisclose to winning GA. They need to get on it.

 

Maybe they are sending Kaine there?

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I just read more of the Rudy stuff and it's bewildering even for that despot. 

 

- Hillary cheated on Bill 

- it's alright if Bill cheated on Hillary, because everyone cheats 

- there's nothing wrong with Bill cheating, the problem is the wife's role in it 

 

I hope all the people who nod along with this realize just how far this type of frothing hatred of women will reach. 

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I just read more of the Rudy stuff and it's bewildering even for that despot. 

 

- Hillary cheated on Bill 

- it's alright if Bill cheated on Hillary, because everyone cheats 

- there's nothing wrong with Bill cheating, the problem is the wife's role in it 

 

I hope all the people who nod along with this realize just how far this type of frothing hatred of women will reach. 

That's what happens when you isolate yourself with Fox News and Breitbart people.

You think so NBA? I was hopeful during the Senate race in 2012 with what's her name Michelle Nunn but she lost badly from what I can recall. Still tho the polls are pretty eye popping and she's consistently within 4 points so I do wonder if there's enough vote in ATL to take her over the top....

Georgia is close to going blue. It's one of those states that's lost white residents and continued to diversify particularly in the higher populated areas. I read(correct me NBA) that they actually have a fairly large and growing Asian population also. I read Kasim Reed met with the DNC leadership and Clinton's team recently to get support to helping to flip it as they feel the potential votes are there.

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Georgia is a prospect if Hillary wins big, but it's not a place where they are putting many resources. The Atlanta suburbs to the north are blood red and a tough nut to crack. More moderate Republicans in Cobb, Dekalb, Fulton and Gwinnett might crossover to vote Clinton, though.

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So of course 24 hours after I give kudos to the NY Times, they have to publish this crap, which is more of a novel than an article.

 

It's all about Bill, Gennifer, Monica and a little bit of Paula and what Hillary may or may not have done to discredit and or destroy the women.   

 

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/10/03/us/politics/hillary-bill-clinton-women.html?smid=tw-nytpolitics&smtyp=cur&referer=https://t.co/Wcb3hEm3XK

 

Betsy Wright, former Bill campaign chair, "It is reprehensible that The New York Times is joining The National Enquirer and Donald Trump by dredging up irrelevant slime from the past." 

 

 

Also, Bill and Hillary refused to be interviewed. Brian Fallon of her campaign says, "The country closed the book on these matters close to 20 years ago, and there is nothing whatsoever new here."

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The NYT has never liked the Clintons - they were the ones who started Whitewater and all the rest. They also very merrily took us to war in Iraq. It's not a paper of note or value and hasn't been in many years. 

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I didn't know their history, but I know that this election year, they barely went after Trump, unless you count recently. I did hear their editorial board gave an amazing endorsement of her though. 

 

Josh of Talking Points Memo got a bunch of Dems to take back the frog, featuring Kermit with hashtags such as #takingbackthefrog and #imwithker.

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