Being a Verizon Online subscriber, I have access to SOAPnet's "SOAPnetic" page that gives like interviews, recaps and other stuff from the soaps. Well I logged on and came across an interview that someone conducted with Brian Frons about fall previews and stuff. I came across one part of the interview where the interviewer asks if Noah, Anna, Robert will be more in the mix for the fall. Brian kinda stutters and says:

"I think they're uh, umm....a little more in a support position than they were 25 years ago."

Clue Brian, NO ONE WANTS TO SEE THEM IN A SUPPORTING POSITION!!! And to be supporting, you have to be shown more often. Seeing Anna once every two weeks does not count as supporting. Seeing Robert once every few weeks does not count as supporting. Seeing Noah once every month or two doesn't count as supporting.

Anyways, I captured the snippet and uploaded it to youtube.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=e7TTSH-Gm8A

You may have to turn your speakers up some. He went really low after a while.

Anna,robert,noah,and even Bobbie need to be on more and in frontburner storylines.Frons is an idiot.As much as I love Susan Lucci she cannot carry ABC daytime.

Desperate Housewives is the #1 show on TV with characters in their 40s. Dynasty was #1 and Linda Evans and Joan Collins were in their 50s! Daytime soaps have ALWAYS featured multi-generational casts and thats why they are still around for Frons to [!@#$%^&*] up!

Young does not equal quality!

Y&R is #1 in the key 18-47 demo and their most popular characters are over 40. Actually they only have three teens on the show and the show doesn't revolve around them. You don't have to look any further than a Y&R or Days to see that you can bring in younger viewers without shoving awful teens down their throats. Actually, the writing for teens probably drives the younger viewers away because it's so unrealistic.

Sorry, but if you're telling me my generation is like Colby on AMC? I'll pass on that one!

Frons is an idiot and he doesn't understand viewers. The nightime soaps are an excellent example. Grey's Anatomy, Desperate Housewives are traditional soaps -- particularly Grey's Anatomy. They are very much multi-generational. Y&R is focused on 40 somethngs and is doing great. It focuses also on a business world, romance and confluct. I think new night shows -- Studio 64 or whatever studio LOL will be for example are using the soap format too.

He's very much out of touch. Of course, riding Soapnet -- which carries Y&R and DOOL -- will keep in goo standing with the brass, but his daytime product is a disaster. He certainly doesn't get it.

If all the 9 daytime soaps focus on the over 40 crowd more maybe there would be more of a daytime audience.Frons needs to get with it or all his abc soaps will die out.

He will NEVER get it, it seems...ABC needs to WAKE UP and get rid of this poison!

The thing that really annoys me *isnt* the backburnering of the vets, although that does get on my nerves as well, it's more the way they write for a younger set.

Main example is Colby Chandler on AMC...she should be a real complex character...she could still be a brat...but it would be better if we knew why she was actually acting this way, if she had layers to her that would make her more rootable and interesting.

Instead we get a one note brat who it's hard not to hate. The daughter of two of AMC's most legendary characters and we get a spoilt brat with no likeability.

Lulu Spencer on GH...the daughter of daytime...maybe even television's most famous and legendary supercouple, and she's also a slight disappointment compared to what she could have been.

I don't really know where I'm going with this, just that, if they are insistant on shoving teens down our throat, they might as well be riveting, complex and rootable/hateable.

He sure has a lot to learn. It's been proven, well, at least on the Internet, that young soap fans would rather see compelling drama featuring older characters and vets than teens. Y&R, and B&B have almost always focused on characters in their 30s and up and the ratings have been good and consistent. Same thing with DAYS, except for when Langan brought the teens frontburner, and that was a disaster for the most part. The big primetime soaps like Knots Landing, Dallas, Dynasty, Falcon Crest, DH, etc., used their mature actors and actresses and they were sex symbols too. Hell, some women still think John Forsythe is sexy! Frons just doesn't get it at all.

This is kind of a silly comparison but my sister likens it to 7 year old girls playing with Barbie dolls. The Barbies are never seven, they're always much older. I remember watching soaps as an adolescent and thinking there was more they got wrong than right. It might have been true too of the older characters, but if it was, I didn't know it at the time so they seemed more credible to me. I think at that age we all imagined ourselves more mature than we really were and thus tried to identify with more mature characters.

I started watching AMC regularly in fifth grade, January 1990 -- at the age of 10 1/2! A year later, sixth grade, I was hooked. Loved Natalie and Trevor, Travis/Erica/Jack/Barbara situation, LOVED Opal!

So, maybe I was just a freak of nature, but I don't understand how a 17 or 18 year old can't get pulled into an adult drama, but I could at 5th Grade?!

I got reeled in when I was like 9 or 10 and I could understand everything that was going on. I think also it helped learn about alot of things as well. Frons and his group of idiots are so out of touch.

this is the same bastard that when commenting on Y&R's high ratings said "yeah they're number 1 in the nursing home" For someone his age, its disgusting how little regard he has for older actors and fans as well.

this is the same bastard that when commenting on Y&R's high ratings said "yeah they're number 1 in the nursing home" For someone his age, its disgusting how little regard he has for older actors and fans as well.

Yeaaaah. It was something like that. Either about ATWT or Y&R or CBS in general. Let's be like Samantha's Mom Endora and just not remember it too well. Let's DURWOOD it.

The thing that really annoys me *isnt* the backburnering of the vets, although that does get on my nerves as well, it's more the way they write for a younger set.

Main example is Colby Chandler on AMC...she should be a real complex character...she could still be a brat...but it would be better if we knew why she was actually acting this way, if she had layers to her that would make her more rootable and interesting.

Instead we get a one note brat who it's hard not to hate. The daughter of two of AMC's most legendary characters and we get a spoilt brat with no likeability.

Lulu Spencer on GH...the daughter of daytime...maybe even television's most famous and legendary supercouple, and she's also a slight disappointment compared to what she could have been.

I don't really know where I'm going with this, just that, if they are insistant on shoving teens down our throat, they might as well be riveting, complex and rootable/hateable.

In these cases, we were robbed of seeing them grow up -- just like Duke from OLTL. In contrast, we saw Lucky Spenser (the Jonathan Jackson version) grow up almost before our eyes, playing out the relationship with both parents. We also saw Erin Torpey's Jessica Buchanan grow up, and now Starr Manning. We know these characters already, we know their issues -- and we expect great things from the characters (even if in some cases played by a different actor). We'd seen the stages.

In Colby's case, the SORAsing is nigh ridiculous -- and it doesn't seem that long ago LuLu was having tea parties for Nicholas either. Especially for teen girls, there is a tremendous amount of angst/drama with mom that neither of these girls can have due to casting issues.

Lulu Spencer on GH...the daughter of daytime...maybe even television's most famous and legendary supercouple, and she's also a slight disappointment compared to what she could have been.

I don't really know where I'm going with this, just that, if they are insistant on shoving teens down our throat, they might as well be riveting, complex and rootable/hateable.

IDA. Since joining the show, Lulu has not been shoved down our throats. I dont think she's a dissapointment, bc she is exactly how I envisioned her to be. In fact she and her story are the best thing on the show right now. She is one of the bright spots and her drama is coming across real and intriguing. The girl is complex and has real issues and alot of layers to her which Julie Marie Berman has done an outstanding job of portraying. I see an Emmy nom in her future. I like how she's drawing the characters together and providing story for Edward, Tracy and Luke as a result and when Laura enters the equation, it will become that much more powerful

In Colby's case, the SORAsing is nigh ridiculous -- and it doesn't seem that long ago LuLu was having tea parties for Nicholas either. Especially for teen girls, there is a tremendous amount of angst/drama with mom that neither of these girls can have due to casting issues.

Lulu couldnt have it bc her mother wasnt on the show for 4 years. They had to age her bc they were deSORASing her. She went from about 8 to 5, which made no sense bc they aged Georgie who was born around the same time as her