Everything posted by bongobong
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B&B: June 2025 Discussion Thread
Availability early when Brad took over as HW could be a big factor to why he prefers Brooke. Tylo's two 5 month departures both came at bad times for the show. In '94 she left right before the summer of OJ pre-emptions. In '96 she left again in a period when AMC started bleeding viewers, but DAYS ended up being the main beneficiary.
- DAYS: Actor returning? (6/17 update: NOT RETURNING!)
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LATEST RATINGS: June 2-6, 2025
I'm guessing that Fridays are relatively stronger for daytime in the 2020's because it's the most common work from home day.
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ARTICLE: ‘General Hospital’ Tops Hulu’s Top 15 Today Rankings Chart
Food for thought: maybe limiting episodes to 10 helps the streaming numbers. It sounds counter-intuitive but hear me out. Pre-streaming viewers were trained to dip out and dip back in (or watch less often) when the show bored them. For younger viewers who discover on soap on streaming, it may not be intuitive to skip ahead when a period of the show doesn't interest them. So if they stop watching a show with a heavy catalogue for a few weeks or months, they'll be "stuck" in the period that caused them to stop watching when they resume, get frustrated, and possibly be gone for good. With only 10 episodes available, they may give the show another chance, enjoy the newer storylines, and resume watching regularly.
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B&B: June 2025 Discussion Thread
Heads up to those who avoid spoilers - don't watch the closing credits today.
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B&B: June 2025 Discussion Thread
Bill convinced the Governor to pardon Luna. Steffy was too busy badmouthing Hope & Brooke for most of the Spring to concern herself with such trivial matters.
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B&B: Old/Classic Discussion & Articles
I haven't seen Melchior in the role, but it would be astounding if she's worse than Linn. Her rivalry with Stephanie was sidelined IMO because Linn was one of the few actors who didn't have chemistry with, nor raise her game, when paired with Susan Flannery. To be fair, she did show some signs of life in scenes opposite Darlene Connelly, but way too little too late. It feels like Bell finally woke up after the Thorne switchover and sidelined the Kristin character with Mick to 1 or 2 appearances a week. As a result, the show improved by leaps and bounds after she was inexplicably at the center of the show for most of 1989. Margo is so much more enjoyable when not tied to that albatross. Even Clarke is watchable with less Kristin interaction. She can't exit stage left soon enough. As for the new Thorne, I agree that Norcross feels like a Forrester a lot more than Thrachta, even if the latter is a better actor.
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B&B: June 2025 Spoilers
Thank you for this tip! I was looking to buy that shirt Finn wore this week.
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LATEST RATINGS: May 26-30, 2025
You're right, W25-54 is the demo buyers use for CBS daytime.
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LATEST RATINGS: May 26-30, 2025
Not counting Memorial Day helped Y&R and hurt Bold. Good for the BTG team for getting their first daily win on Thursday.
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B&B: Old/Classic Discussion & Articles
Finally got to the Thorne switchover in 1989. OG Thorne's drunk acting in his last episode was pretty awful. For a second I wondered if the performance was so bad Bill Bell felt he had no choice but to recast ASAP....until I remembered he was fine with letting Terri Ann Lynn vacantly shriek her lines for 2 1/2 years with no problem. Crazy that if SON was around in 1989 there might be a debate if Ron Moss was the 2nd best Forrester actor, rather than being the worst actor in daytime. Lauren Koslow finally had some decent material in August/September. Seeing Margo briefly interact with Stephanie & Caroline made the actress come alive. It seemed when the show started, she was there to mix it up with the power players, instead of being stuck on the B team with Kristin, Clarke & Mick (was the casting notice for this part a Kale Brown-type doing a Christopher Walken impression?). Anyway, the way Bill Bell wrote for her makes one appreciate James E. Reilly. Bobbie Eakes was a very pleasant surprise. I haven't had too much exposure to the character before. She was confident and watchable from day 1. I guess Rocco and Nick fell in love and left LA together offscreen.
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ARTICLE: ‘Days Of Our Lives’: A Peacock Success Story
Respectfully, no. They aren't trying to distract from anything, the losses were cut by a third and the app is experiencing growth. NBCU isn't seen as a risky investment by media buyers.
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ARTICLE: ‘Days Of Our Lives’: A Peacock Success Story
I haven't seen it yet, but Day of the Jackal is the ONLY scripted Peacock show I've heard people talk about in real life. Anecdotal, but from a boomer relative, millennial friend & gen z co-worker. There's value there in being the first big buzz show to draw people to the platform. Bel Air is the only other show I noticed that got some organic buzz (from non-tv critics) online a few years ago.
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ARTICLE: ‘Days Of Our Lives’: A Peacock Success Story
Seems right to me. It's about retaining the signups from when the show migrated to Peacock. After 3 years, paid promotion seems like waste of money at this point.
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ARTICLE: ‘Beyond The Gates’ To Air First Repeat Episode On Memorial Day Holiday
Seems like a missed opportunity for BTG (and GH to a lessor extent because it's been on for 60 years....). Sure, it's likely the holiday numbers will be lower, but they forfeit the chance for regular viewers to introduce the show to their 9-5 relatives or friends who might like it and set their DVR or stream it afterwards.
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ARTICLE: ‘Days Of Our Lives’: A Peacock Success Story
If episodes are 40 minutes(?), that averages 436,742 viewers per episode for season 59 & 652,173 for season 60.
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B&B: May 2025 Discussion Thread
Her title is: Director of Fighting with Daphne Rose & Expository Recapping with Brooke
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LATEST RATINGS: April 28 - May 2, 2025
CBS has more popular primetime shows compared to ABC & NBC. Plus 2 slots reserved for whatever Taylor Sheridan is newly streaming & toddlers/stoners watching Spongebob.
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Another World Discussion Thread
Good point. In addition to being a great character in her own right, she had chemistry with almost everyone on the show. A Jake/Paulina/Iris triangle would have been a lot of fun. If 1994 AW aired in 2025, I doubt Iris would have even considered to be on the chomping block. All the shows now are noticeably less youth obsessed compared to the 90s.
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Another World Discussion Thread
Interesting, I didn't know the origins of their "friendship." Don't get me wrong, I have nothing against Linda Dano or Felicia, but maybe the show would have been better off if they killed off Felicia instead of Quinn and built around her. Correct me if I'm wrong, but weren't OLTL & ATWT pretty white at that time? Of all the stuff they threw at walls during that time to see what stuck, appealing to Black viewers seemed like a no-brainer. Especially since NBC had success at that time in Primetime with The Cosby Show & 227. Even in the mornings with Bryant Gumbel on Today. Of course, didn't have to be an either/or. I didn't mean to convey that Donna's isolation was the reason. Rachel, Felicia & Donna were all rich, 50ish brunettes whose characters started bleeding together by that point. Granted, mostly due to the bad writing of the writers she hired. Of the 3, getting rid of Donna would have been by far the easiest as VW had the most longevity/caused the biggest uproar; and Dano was the face of the show to the industry (and her favorite of the bunch). Thanks for the info of the alcoholism story. It was right before I started watching so I've only seen the clips of the intervention. Don't remember Cass & Donna at all. Was it last year of the show before he got with Lila? I was mostly checked out at that point.
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B&B: May 2025 Discussion Thread
Hilarious that Steffy just barges into Brooke's house to see Hope without knocking. Ridge bought it, so I guess she feels she's entitled to.
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Another World Discussion Thread
This would be a weird comment to make about the face of the show if it wasn't damn accurate. In the 90s she was mostly confined to her own orbit with her daughters and Cass, aside from a few stories. Her relationship with Rachel was pretty weird too. A case of tell not show. They seemed to be there for each other at big moments (weddings, funerals, etc.) and proclaim how close they were, but rarely interacted outside of those. I only remember one storyline they had together - the Lucas lookalike - but that was more about their significant others' animosity if I'm remembering correctly. In hindsight, it was pretty strange how little Rachel, Felicia & Donna - all around the same age give or take - had to do with each other for the last decade. The actresses were all top-10 in longevity for the entire show and made it to the finish line, but never meaningfully mixed it up at the end. Even Donna dating Rachel's son didn't lead to many interactions between those 2. I can understand JFP's reasoning for getting rid of Donna, even if I didn't agree with it (she was my favorite of the 3).
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ARTICLE: UEFA Champions League Soccer Coverage On CBS Leads Network’s Daytime Lineup To Season Lows Among Total Viewers – RATINGS
Soccer ratings are rising in the US. CBS/Paramount+ needs to provide a bunch of sports offerings to keep young men tuned in until its most important asset, the NFL, returns in September.
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ARTICLE: UEFA Champions League Soccer Coverage On CBS Leads Network’s Daytime Lineup To Season Lows Among Total Viewers – RATINGS
CBS literally renewed B&B a month ago for 3 years and Y&R for 4 the year before. Doesn't look like they're scheming to get rid of their soaps. Obviously Y&R & B&B were dinged a bit for being preempted in almost 25% of the US for 2 days. As for BTG, isn't it strategically smart to have strong episodes (I'll take your word for it) bracketing preemptions? If Monday was ho-hum, wouldn't turning back in on Thursday be less top of mind for the less fanatic viewers?
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Another World Discussion Thread
Thanks for posting this, fascinating read. It's clear how ambivalent Wyndham is about Justine. IMO, it reads like she agrees that the end of the storyline was bad, but reading between the lines I think she thought she was doing good work for the meat of it....which was not the case. As bad as the writing for most of that story was, it was truly made worse by her embarrassing performance. After the story concluded she kept falling back into Justine ticks, when she wasn't phoning he scenes in. Not to play Freud, but was it to tr*ll her critics?