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bongobong

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  1. The first time in a while. Y&R lost weeks until this year, but it was the late 2000s when it pulled away from the pack in that demo. Before that the leaders were mostly: Early 90s: AMC Mid 90s: Days Late 90s to Mid-late 2000s: A horse race between Y&R, Days & GH I assume GH, AMC & OLTL ruled the 80s with an iron fist.
  2. Yeah, the Clarke story suffers in the same way the Macy/Thorne/Karen does - it's so sporadic. That said, I find Clarke annoying when he's not paired with Sally, so I don't mind the stops. Kristin is my least favorite character ever so I find it hilarious that no one in her family gives a damn that she's back so she's just slumming it with Clarke.
  3. Mid 1992 is entertaining even if it's the sloppiest I've ever seen the show: -Sheila uses her real name (OK, they don't want to confuse viewers) when applying to FC AND her reference is the place that thinks she's dead? -Blake holds Karen hostage and the police are called. But after chilling out for a few weeks he can go about his business of selling his house, as well as visiting Taylor & Brooke. -No conflict or any hint of tension between Taylor & her dad until she returns from her honeymoon. She then remembers his gambling past and is wary of him. -Even though she's as close as she's ever been, Stephanie does a 180 and out of the blue accepts that Eric doesn't want her and moves on, and now she likes Taylor too. The last one I liked, because it's nice to see Stephanie not play the loser in love for a change. But it seems like moving Sheila to B&B was a somewhat last minute decision and the writers quickly rearranged things. It makes sense that they needed to move Stephanie out of Eric's orbit for the start of Sheila getting her hooks into Eric. Other thoughts: -Yikes, was Lane Davies miscast as Ridge for the fill-in job. Ever seen felt like he was on a completely different show than his scene partners. I think his reputation saves this from ridicule as an all-time stinker performance. -The zany music cues at Spectra are super annoying, but Darlene Connelly is excellent and makes everything they throw at her work. -Colleen Dion is such a nice presence as Felicia as @DRW50 , even if the show didn't know what to do with her. I feel that because the confrontation scenes with Macy were a bust, the show began to devalue her (and scrapped the quad with Jake & Thorne). The Zack storyline feels like a worse retread of the Jake storyline. The show chemistry-tested her with the cop who investigated Thorne's shooting/Belief theft - now that would have been an interesting pairing. Her mother/daughter scenes with Susan Flannery are excellent. -Everything Macy/Thorne/Karen is so stop & go that it's hard to get any traction.
  4. I was hoping they'd clarify what Brooke's title is. Does she just run the Brooke's Bedroom line? Is she President again? If the latter, PR would be in her purview. Katie annoyed that Brooke goes back to siding with Ridge over her family is - dare I say - natural conflict. The new sets are great & all, but they really need another office set at Forrester. Why would the head of PR be working in the design office? There should be a smaller third office that they can redress for Katie, Carter, Daphne & Ivy/Electra would logically have their own spaces. They don't need an elaborate shipping set like back in the day, but having only 3 spaces at FC makes the company seem tiny.
  5. Jane Elliot as Beth is a fascinating What IF. Even if she didn't stick around beyond her initial contract (wasn't she over LA in the 90s if I remember correctly?) it would have changed the trajectory of the show in a major way. I can't imagine that Beth vs Stephanie wouldn't have been a more prominent rivalry with Elliot in the role. Sally replaced Beth as Stephanie's over 40 foil in '89, would there be a Sally Spectra in this universe? Still amazing after all these years. This clip has it all: the worst actress in Days history (Rahmer), DAYS' best recast of the 2000s (Lindell) & the guy from Good Morning Football.
  6. ABC really outsmarted itself marking The View as specials. Good for B&B. It's having a (relatively) great fall. I guess we'll see how it fares until Luna comes back. Odd that none if its big 5 of the past decade (Hope, Steffy, Brooke, Ridge, Liam) are driving story at the moment. Looks to be the worst hold yet for BTG vs its lead-in in W18-49, falling below 2/3rds for the first time. Also fell below The Talk for the first time in W25-54. On the bright side, it had its best retention in that demo from B&B in weeks.
  7. I assumed the actress was in her late 20s when the show started. Even then she seemed too young for Ethan to refer to her as Aunt Sheridan. Not to mention being best friends with Princess Di!
  8. I could be mistaken but I thought Valley's Jack was divisive at first because his stoic take was so different than Ashford's more comedic character. If we're counting actors who replaced unpopular recasts I remember Lisa Brenner being well liked as Maggie on AW taking over for Jodi O'Keefe (who went on to a good career after). In the category of returns after a long gap Mark Collier as Mike on ATWT & Wendy Moniz as Dinah on GL qualify. For quick turnaround recasts, Windsor Harmon was accepted quickly as Thorne. No offence to those 4 or 5 Jeff Trachta truthers who protested the studio.
  9. Absolutely, it was an amazing performance. Joining 24 in season 5 was a great career move: - Connie Britton went on to Friday Night Lights the next season -Jayne Atkinson stayed on for a few more seasons then went on to a solid career (House of Cards, Criminal Minds) -Stana Katic got Castle a few years later -And the strangest, Brady Corbet who played Britton's son went on to direct the Brutalist
  10. Probably because its more of what we've seen from the show since it returned from its Labor Day week break. Falling behind The Talk in W18-49 again. Even in W25-54. Demo growth when its lead-in grew but lackluster holds of 73 & 71%. Up until the said break its demos and retention rates were much better, with similar viewer numbers.
  11. Thanks for letting me know about this, it has a good cast and interesting premise. Did you enjoy it? I think Boss is the only Starz drama I've seen.
  12. Tichina Arnold has a perfect record on broadcast, with a hit every decade. Martin in the 90s, Everybody Hates Chris in the 00s and The Neighborhood in the 10s.
  13. Is Remy going to be texter who hit "Luna"? He filled in for Luna as the psycho last year around this time last year when they rested the character for a few months. The lengths the show goes to avoid mentioning RJ in connection to Luna is comical. Half the episode was talking about Luna causing bad PR for Forrester. Yet no one brought up that she was dating Ridge's son during her murder spree. And oh yeah, he was an influencer who probably posted hundred of pics of them together.
  14. Wasn't this the first week of Roger Howarth on Y&R? Good week to be Michael Easton's agent!
  15. Because the topic at hand was the reason behind the repeats. I provided links by a credible source (Errol) who provided solid reasoning for it, confirmed by his sources. But believe what you want.
  16. As I said in the original post, they can just start airing the next batch after the first one. Also, Errol reported on this during the first week of repeats. https://boards.soapoperanetwork.com/topic/69077-btg-encore-discussion-thread/page/12/#findComment-2035240 https://boards.soapoperanetwork.com/topic/69077-btg-encore-discussion-thread/page/6/#findComment-2034027
  17. We also know that CBS can start airing the second batch of ordered episodes after the first one has completed airing. Enough are already in the can, the show does the Days method of production. It's obvious that the repeats have nothing to do with the limited order despite the PR spin. The major holiday pre-emptions were planned, but none of its 8 executive producers knew that the repeat weeks were coming - at least the first one. Now its being pulled on Veterans Day Eve and the day before Thanksgiving.
  18. She faked the miscarriage so when they do the autopsy on the fake Luna body it won't raise red flags. I guess the guard helped her fake it. -1 for no one at Steffy's house grilling Li if she's keeping Luna alive again.
  19. Kudos to the director, I can't think of another soap episode that looked better. The shot of Steffy & Finn zooming out from their house was amazing. This show still has its fastball.
  20. Interesting, thanks for the info on the Bell bible. Good point on Days being at its peak, but at the same time Y&R was so much stronger than B&B at the time that it still would have been a safer launching pad. Days was strong in W18-34, while the CBS shows skewed older. Either way, I'm glad it never happened. Every time I've tried to watch an 1-hour soap in the past 10 years it felt like such a slog.
  21. That's a fair point about less A-listers. Between the ones you mentioned Melissa Fumero & Justin Hartley have worked consistently too.
  22. I don't think the fragmentation of media has helped actors from soaps. Most of the big movie stars that started on soaps (Demi Moore, Meg Ryan, Robin Wright, Julianne Moore, Marisa Tomei, Kevin Bacon) were on in the 80s when daytime was at its cultural peak. There hasn't been A-list actor from the soaps since Michael B Jordan. And he did a season of The Wire before joining AMC.
  23. There were only 14 contract players for a month or two in 1992. Between Jake and Margo leaving & Sheila and Taylor's family arriving. And that included bit players Saul & Darla. Thorne pretty much qualifies as a bit player at this point too. Wasn't the rumor that there would be a new 1/2 hour Bell show and GL would be cancelled? I'd love to know the real story there. My guess is that the Bell's business affairs people talked them out of it as it would have been a tough sell for its lucrative foreign markets. Plus in the US, GL slot was pushed to 10am in a bunch of big markets at that point. But if talks with CBS advanced there would likely have been a fight with P&G over the timeslot, as Bold would have wanted the 2pm slot rather than having ATWT as its lead-in in most markets.
  24. LMAO they didn't even bother to match the outfits. Not even the same color. When other soaps did the mid-scene switch, such as with the Babes on AMC or the hunky Jacks on Days, the recasts attempted to keep the same vibe to the character. Not the case here at all, which makes this even stranger.

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