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Wasn't this the first week of Roger Howarth on Y&R? Good week to be Michael Easton's agent!

Because the topic at hand was the reason behind the repeats. I provided links by a credible source (Errol) who provided solid reasoning for it, confirmed by his sources. But believe what you want.

As I said in the original post, they can just start airing the next batch after the first one. Also, Errol reported on this during the first week of repeats. https://boards.soapoperanetwork.com/topic/69077-btg-encore-discussion-thread/page/12/#findComment-2035240 https://boards.soapoperanetwork.com/topic/69077-btg-encore-discussion-thread/page/6/#findComment-2034027

We also know that CBS can start airing the second batch of ordered episodes after the first one has completed airing. Enough are already in the can, the show does the Days method of production. It's obvious that the repeats have nothing to do with the limited order despite the PR spin. The major holiday pre-emptions were planned, but none of its 8 executive producers knew that the repeat weeks were coming - at least the first one. Now its being pulled on Veterans Day Eve and the day before Thanksgiving.

She faked the miscarriage so when they do the autopsy on the fake Luna body it won't raise red flags. I guess the guard helped her fake it. -1 for no one at Steffy's house grilling Li if she's keeping Luna alive again.

Kudos to the director, I can't think of another soap episode that looked better. The shot of Steffy & Finn zooming out from their house was amazing. This show still has its fastball.

Interesting, thanks for the info on the Bell bible. Good point on Days being at its peak, but at the same time Y&R was so much stronger than B&B at the time that it still would have been a safer launching pad. Days was strong in W18-34, while the CBS shows skewed older. Either way, I'm glad it never happened. Every time I've tried to watch an 1-hour soap in the past 10 years it felt like such a slog.

That's a fair point about less A-listers. Between the ones you mentioned Melissa Fumero & Justin Hartley have worked consistently too.

I don't think the fragmentation of media has helped actors from soaps. Most of the big movie stars that started on soaps (Demi Moore, Meg Ryan, Robin Wright, Julianne Moore, Marisa Tomei, Kevin Bacon) were on in the 80s when daytime was at its cultural peak. There hasn't been A-list actor from the soaps since Michael B Jordan. And he did a season of The Wire before joining AMC.

There were only 14 contract players for a month or two in 1992. Between Jake and Margo leaving & Sheila and Taylor's family arriving. And that included bit players Saul & Darla. Thorne pretty much qualifies as a bit player at this point too. Wasn't the rumor that there would be a new 1/2 hour Bell show and GL would be cancelled? I'd love to know the real story there. My guess is that the Bell's business affairs people talked them out of it as it would have been a tough sell for its lucrative foreign markets. Plus in the US, GL slot was pushed to 10am in a bunch of big markets at that point. But if talks with CBS advanced there would likely have been a fight with P&G over the timeslot, as Bold would have wanted the 2pm slot rather than having ATWT as its lead-in in most markets.

LMAO they didn't even bother to match the outfits. Not even the same color. When other soaps did the mid-scene switch, such as with the Babes on AMC or the hunky Jacks on Days, the recasts attempted to keep the same vibe to the character. Not the case here at all, which makes this even stranger.

I could be mistaken but I think she let her face settle and then she looked pretty good for a while before she went buck wild on more procedures after that. Her 2005 return look would be just as shocking today IMO. She was such a natural beauty and when she returned she was the most plastic looking person on the show. Right or wrong, Taylor couldn't be taken seriously as a voice of reason character again for the rest of Tylo's run because of that.

Why would they air a repeat on a Monday when it's usually their highest rated day?

Are we in for another health scare for Katie? Steffy bringing up her heart issues seemed pretty random, let alone seeming to care about it. Steffy's been pretty chill since her return - it seems like they're trying to soften her character.

Yeah, that was a big plot hole! B&B could have still done this storyline but with Caroline Jr instead of Maya. That said, Karla Mosley did a great job with the story. The Karen story on B&B was very dumb and rushed. Blake sees Caroline's portrait for the first time at Bill Sr's, and in the next episode he runs into Karen in Texas(!). Never mind that no one else seemed to know about this despite Bill being well known when it happened and it was in the papers. AW's Justine being an exact clone of Rachel. Gee, you think that would have come up. As bad as that writing was, Wyndham was epically awful and those ticks persisted until the end of the show. The only time I can remember in soaps that someone went from being a good actor to someone that Ron Moss could dunk on. The Salem Stalker rewrite (was it right before Doug was killed?) was silly even for Days. This is probably the winner though:

Bold has been pretty stable in the demos this fall while the other soaps' demos have taken a dive from their summer numbers. I assume 6/7 weeks at #1 as Errol pointed out is its best run in W18-49 ever. The TPIR is having a rough fall in the younger demo while doing ok in the older one. It probably doesn't have the nostalgia cachet with GenZ like it does with Xers and Millennials.

Deke & Electra's instant friendship feels like the show is dunking on us for mocking Ridge & Carter's best-friendship.

Wild to see Luna being a talk-to to advance someone else's story. And be the voice of reason! Time will tell if Remy's about-face is sloppy writing or a sign his mental issues have returned. His wanting to work at FC came out of nowhere. Could Nick Jr (or whatever Nick & Brooke's son's name is) be on his way and they're setting Remy up to be the pyscho in that triangle?

Only speaking for myself but I have no problem with any performer stating their preference and using their influence. The shows don't have to oblige their desires. If the actors don't play ball, they show can write out the character or recast the part. Just as the actors can leave at the end of their contracts if they want to. That said, I'd prefer Steffy in sexier storylines again.

Interesting, thank you for sharing this. Good on Scott for sticking up for her. There's nothing wrong with JMW using her considerable leverage to veto stories she doesn't want to do. It happens all the time in the creative industry. This isn't exactly a shock. Keeping Steffy out of love triangles for coming up on 5 years obviously wasn't Bell's idea. This probably explains why Sheila lasted so long, and likely a factor in Luna's turn to the dark side. Steffy needs something to do.

Agree to disagree on this one. I think Eric loved Stephanie & she was his best friend. He didn't like being married to her IMO. His seeing ghost Stephanie was to signify to the audience that he "died."

She show began with them years into a miserable marriage. As a wife she was just as scheming and manipulative or more-so as 3 of the 4. I'll give you Sheila. But unlike the others she was belittling, emasculating, cold, and constantly withholding sex. Her saving grace as a wife was that she was loyal to a fault. So when he was licking his wounds he went back to her, and the patterns repeated. If he ranked his wives how much he respected them, Stephanie would win. But who he enjoyed being married to? Obviously the Logans. Probably Quinn too to be real.

Her portrait belongs at Forrester Creations. Stephanie is the GOAT of B&B but at best she's Eric's 3rd favorite wife.

The Karen intro is wild. Bill Bell wrote some bad stories, and dropped others completely. But this is this first story on Bold that feels like it was thought up on Friday and began shooting the next week. Episode 1 has Blake seeing Caroline's portrait for the first time. In the next episode Karen is his waitress in Texas. In the one after that Margo sees the newspaper clipping (where Bill looks the same age as he does in 1991) of her kidnapping. As if Margo wouldn't have heard about this, Bill wasn't exactly a nobody. She wasn't even needed storywise as the Brooke/Ridge/Taylor triangle was going full throttle. Anyone know the story here? Did Bell panic after seeing how popular Caroline was overseas?

I'm enjoying this story, the actors have good chemistry and it feels a bit more adult than the other pairings. That said, Taylor going on trial for dating a patient would be epic. If for no other reason than Brooke testifying on the record that Taylor slept with 3 generations of Logan men. On another note: is Zende still on the show? Deke seems to have usurped him the same way Will replaced RJ.