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Worked out for Kassie, but this could have been amazing if Sloan/Culliton wrote to her strengths. The pairing with Grant and rivalry with Vicky would have been a lot of fun. Not to mention the sibling relationships with Iris, Paulina & Matt. Maybe the Evan story could have worked too. Of course, the show went in the exact opposite direction and Amanda just became Kelsey 2.

Paramount should pick up the SWAT spinoff with a condition that Sony lets BTG use the Drucilla character.

The administration hasn't ideologically changed in the 2 months or so since Paramount renewed BTG, The Chi, Yellow Jackets, Ghosts, probably 30 RuPaul spinoffs, and hopefully/likely Lioness will be announced soon. Being an endangered species for 15 years seemed to have kept the soaps on their toes compared to late night. Shortsighted that in 2015 CBS cut and pasted Colbert (who rose to fame via a bare-bones program) into the Letterman show like it was still 2004.

Ironheart isn't original IP, but I don't disagree that there is toxicity in Marvel/Disney's online discourse. If Paramount thought for a second that BTG would be a factor in the merger they would not have renewed it.

I would be, as I can't think of a single recent example of people protesting or putting pressure to cancel an original IP because the characters aren't white. Do you think Let's Make A Deal is on the chopping block too? Also, BTG has nothing to do with DEI. Nor does other successful daytime shows with primarily Black talent like First Take, Good Morning America, Family Feud, etc.

Bill Bell's execution of Jake's abuse storyline on Bold was tacky as hell. At almost every story beat, Bell had the actor strip down and be as scantily clad as possible. I'm surprised Jake didn't borrow Ridge's speedo to confront his parents. On any other show, the entire Vincent arc would be the definitive top answer for this thread, but it didn't feel that inappropriate for Passions.

No harm no foul. I'll take the week before Labor Day for the next repeat week if there's a pool.

A miracle brain tumor cure seems about as realistic as a 55ish LA brain surgeon having a hard time securing a million dollars.

I'll take your words for it, I haven't watched Stewart nor the Daily show since 07-08. I do think "both-sides," not picking on you Jane because as I said I don't watch Stewart, gets thrown around too much. If you don't call out both parties when warranted, you lose credibility with all but the most partisan. There's no doubt that Bill Maher has changed more minds than Cobert/Guttfeld/Oliver combined.

The late night hosts themselves have been saying that late night is going to retract for a good 5 years now. CBS already cancelled the 1230 slot that hasn't been political for years. It makes sense that CBS and its affiliates would rather air (I assume) a second 1/2 hour of local news at 1130. Cancelling the Daily Show, which has seen a big ratings increase, and is way more popular on digital, would raise WAY more flags IMO.

Wouldn't Bill be Liam's next of kin over the ex-wives? Nice work by Brown & Kanan in their brief scenes.

LMAO, Poppy is awesome. I look forward to everyone blasting her for saying that, then agreeing with the sentiment in a following segment. Steffy should have watched Li instead of visiting Liam. See you soon Luna!

What's more non-sexual than a kiss on the forehead?

Bell didn't explore Kristen's relationship with anyone from her family, save for the first 6 months or so when Stephanie was jealous of her relationship with Eric. I suspect that because the actress performer was a rare one who had no chemistry with Susan Flannery, Bell dropped it and transferred those elements to Stephanie's obsession with Ridge. After that, the Forresters only paid attention to Kristen to advance a Clarke plot-point.

Steffy better not let Li out of her sight for the next week if Luna "dies."

Random 1990 thoughts (up to September): -Felicia seems like a do-over of the failed Kristin character, and goes over many of the same story beats (joining FC, fighting with Stephanie & Margo), and it works much better. If you look up Dion, she's the queen of 1 (contract) and done across many shows. -Hilarious that Kristin didn't bother to say goodbye to Felicia or Thorne when she left. BYE! -The Jake storyline is OK, though it does make Margo look pretty bad. She wasn't the least bit curious what her brother was up to in the 10 years since he ran away at 14? It's not like she was ever shown to care about her parents any point on the show before. The misuse of Koslow continues to be a problem, but at least this is better than her 88-89 stories. -Macy quickly went from one of my favorites to FF material the minute she started singing with Thorne. -Caroline's death was well done but it's pretty jarring that Bill doesn't seem to morn at all for his daughter. A week or so afterwards he's feuding with Sally or chatting with Margo about other stuff. Speaking of, Margo wasn't invited to her farewell party? -Taylor replacing Caroline as the virtuous heroine is not subtle at all, from taking her spot in the credits to Ridge macking on her right way after his wife's death. The tradition of all doctors being interchangeable gets its start here, as in a matter of weeks she's an oncologist, then Storm books a GP appointment with her, and most clunky of all Felicia just dips in to her office to talk about Jake not getting down with her. -On the Logan front, the new Storm is awful. The original had a wholesome quality that was a good contrast to the slick Forrester/Spencer men. This one is a typical yuppie that they aged 10 years for some reason. The phasing out of Donna is sad, but the actress keeps delivering on the scraps they give her. She is written like the sad-sack Katie at this point. -The biggie - Brooke & Eric hooking up, is not as strongly written as I hoped it would be. Obviously, the Brooke & Stephanie confrontations are great. But the problem is that it's the only interpersonal conflict that rings true. The Logan sisters seem to think its great - I guess to be charitable maybe they think it'll keep their parents together? I get Thorne not being thrilled, but his sudden trashing of Brooke as a gold digger seems way out of character. A weird choice too that Ridge doesn't seem to care at all.

Will is not as attractive as RJ but is ..... a more believable romantic lead.

It gets "more smoke" because its the first new soap in over 25 years being discussed on a board populated soap opera super fans. The show hasn't even been on this month and its July thread has more posts than the others' save for GH. Obviously, people have new opinions to express about a new show, versus crafting their 60th post about how much they're irked by Ameilia Heinle, Brad Bell, or any other number of SON Jerry Gerich's. The other shows aren't being shown grace if they have less posts but a greater percentage of them are negative.

Come on now, even Tucker Carlson couldn't state that B&B is given more grace than BTG on this board with a straight face.

Both Bell soaps are moving in this market. Y&R is moving a half hour later to make way for an expanded noon newscast. https://www.tvpassport.com/tv-listings/stations/cbs-wtsp-tampa-bay-fl/2549/2025-07-07 https://www.tvpassport.com/tv-listings/stations/cbs-wtsp-tampa-bay-fl/2549/2025-06-30

Granted, it was a weakness of the P&G shows too in that demo that helped, but it was competitive below the big 5 (YR/Days/ABC non-PC) from mid 2003- mid 2005.

Thanks for the explanation. You're right, it was press releases I read from the show, touting ratings gains in December & early February - nothing after. It does air at 3 on a bunch of CBS stations, including some O&Os. As most affiliates air talk shows at 3, I wonder if CBS is hearing complaints about the lead-in to that slot. Passions grew its ratings towards its 18 month mark and 2ish years later was beating or tied with the non-Y&R CBS shows in W18-49 regularly. That said, BTG started relatively way stronger in the demos than all 5 of those shows.

Interesting. Could the total viewer concerns be related to The Drew Barrymore Show's ratings? The show (owned by CBS) airs after BTG in many markets. I Googled its ratings and a bunch of articles touting its numbers popped up for this season, but they were all dated prior to BTG's debut. Even though The Talk had lower numbers, it was obviously a more compatible lead-in. FWIW, that show is in repeats next week too.

Wow, they're doing a whole week of repeats? Its return ratings is a catch-22 for fans of the show. If they're back to its average, CBS has the green light to do this on the regular. I guess the ideal situation for BTG's fans would be bad ratings the week back, then back to normal the following week.

An RJ mention? In this economy? It's been a while since they paired a Forrester with one of Ridge's offspring. I hope it remains that way, and if they do recast he's not the latest 3rd wheel to Eleckra & Will.