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According to Ann Marcus, that's what she (Mary Stuart) accused her, then-EP Mary-Ellis Bunim and P&G of doing.

Yeah, that was the beginning of the end for Jennifer Pace's sanity. I wasn't even born when the scene in question happened, but, from what I've gathered, Jennifer and her then-husband, Scott Phillips, were arguing when she fell backward into the glass door. (The whole sequence was done in slow-motion, right, @vetsoapfan?). Jennifer survived the fall; however, her face was disfigured for a time. Suffering from low self-esteem, Jennifer had an affair with John Wyatt, who was on the outs with wife Eunice. I'm not sure about the rest, but...at some point, when John tried to end the affair, Jennifer attempted suicide with an overdose of pills; again, she survived, but was left with severe brain damage that induced the psychosis you see depicted in the above clip (hearing John's voice, convincing her that he still loved her and wanted her to kill Eunice, etc.); Jennifer (with help from her "friend," Stephanie, Jo's nemesis, who would later fall in love with and marry John herself -- but that's another story) concocted some story about a serial rapist to keep John from leaving her; and when that no longer worked, she decided (with "John"'s coaxing) to finish off Eunice, once and for all. For awhile, John was accused of plotting Eunice's murder with Jennifer. However, he was eventually cleared of all charges, and Jennifer was deemed criminally insane, shipped off to a mental institution, never to be seen or heard from again.

Yet, most are so quick to call themselves "pro-life" or "anti-choice." If you care at all about the "sanctity of life," then remaining at home until we have this pandemic under control should be a no-brainer. However, those hypocrites only care about sticking it to the Democrats one more time. As our current president would say, "Sad." True dat.

Thanks, @victoria foxton. This was the best laugh I've had all day.

TPTB really need to get it through their heads that soaps aren't just about good-looking people insulting and blackmailing each other 24/7.

Yes, she was. On the one hand, I think she should have remained with SFT, as I don't believe she's ever played another role as good as Jennifer Pace (and that includes her role as Constance Weldon on FLAMINGO ROAD). But, on the other hand, if she had stayed, she might not have ever become, well, MORGAN FAIRCHILD. Agree. Adding JE to the cast as Tracy Q. was a step in the right direction. But, as you've suggested, @DRW50, it was also a case of "too little, too late," as I think her arrival came past the point when it could have done the show any good.

Either that, or given the fact that LOVING was on its' way out, B&E were able to write without network interference.

OMG. An Erica/Buck/Nick/Tess quadrangle would have been HEAVEN to watch.

At the same time, though, I don't understand why ABCD would have promised MF as much as they did when I'm sure there were other, bigger "names" in the soaps who could have been tempted to take on the role of Sydney Chase. And the fact that MF left after, what, only one year? It just seemed like a total waste to me.

At the very least, I think bringing Susan/Erica over to TC, with her built-in, loyal audience, might have helped TC buy more time to establish itself as a viable show. As it is, they tried to launch TC with Morgan Fairchild, who (no offense to Morgan or to anyone else) hasn't been relevant since the mid-'80's. True. Plus, by most accounts, Lucci is wonderful to work with. Unless Sarah Michelle Gellar and Lee Godart had joined the cast, I think TC's cast would have had a much easier working relationship with her than they did with Morgan Fairchild (who I adore but, let's be honest, has never had a series or role that ran for very long).

No, it wouldn't have been. But, this time around, they could have had Erica return to NYC in order to -- oh, I don't know -- assume the reins of a high-powered modeling agency, or something. You know, just so it wouldn't feel like a rehash from her last residency in Manhattan.

Exactly. Erica was in a bit of a rut by the time LOVING had morphed into THE CITY -- and I say that as someone who has worshipped at La Kane's stiletto-heeled feet his entire life. Moving her from AMC's Pine Valley to TC's SoHo might have been just the thing, both for Erica, and for TC itself. PLUS, I happen to think she and Buck would have been FIRE as a couple. Sigh. If only Agnes Nixon had thought of it, I'm sure Susan Lucci would have graciously agreed to join TC (while still making occasional appearances on AMC, of course) as a favor to her.

Which always seemed...odd to me, for some reason. But, I guess they wanted his house to be distinct from Bert's?

I knew the end was nigh when either they bought out Kmart, or Kmart bought out them (forget which). Kmart's merchandise isn't even as good as Walmart's, for God's sake. And then there was the time when JCP hired the guy who had designed the Apple store to redesign all their stores, resulting in a huge misfire that drove away customers and forced the company to blitz everyone with even more coupons and discounts to bring them back. When Kohl's and TJMaxx offer better stuff than you, you know you have effed up, lol.

Exactly. That's why I can't take these protesters seriously, even as they stand to spread the coronavirus further with their ignorance. They act as if being asked to stay home, avoid crowds, wear protective masks and gloves, and WASH THEIR DAMN HANDS is encroaching upon their personal liberties. But, let me tell you, what we all have to put up with will be nothing compared to what we might have to endure should the numbers continue to increase. If you still support this administration after this.....

I wonder what would have happened if, instead of sending Jane Elliot over to TC, they had sent Susan Lucci? At the very least, they could have sent them over to OLTL after TC had been cancelled.

I believe so? But, I could be wrong. To this day, I crack up over how, on one of her songs, Millie Jackson describes Jill putting on her negligee and driving all the way through GC -- "through the ghetto, past all dem horny niggas!" -- to seduce Stuart. (NSF...well, for anyone, lol.)

JCP's Big & Tall section is the absolute worst. It's as if they believe big guys (like yours truly) don't gaf about looking stylish. Either that, or they're just fat-shaming people.

In retrospect, ABCD was kind of dumb to spin a brand new soap from one that was perennially low-rated. True, LOVING always had its' core audience. However, if those viewers weren't enough to keep LOVING on the air, what made the network think they could help make THE CITY a success? IMO, they would have been smart (or smart-ER) to launch THE CITY as a spinoff of AMC or even OLTL.

Like I always say, within every dark cloud lies a silver lining.

I'm surprised JCPenney is even still in operation. I can't remember the last time I entered one of the stores and saw more than a handful of customers.

I think it goes back to the show's number-one problem, which was its' inability to define itself. When no one knows or understands what a series supposed to be about, BTS interference and turmoil is probably inevitable.

Two observations: 1) Jess Walton did a good job incorporating some of Brenda Dickson's mannerisms or demeanor, so that the transition wasn't too jarring for viewers. 2) The fact that Deborah Adair would return to her former role as a (more-or-less) temp speaks very well for her. I doubt another actor would have done the same under similar circumstances.

Sad, but not surprising.

It's incredible to think there was a time when any soap, let alone Y&R, could pull off something as opulent as a masquerade ball. Nowadays, we're lucky if we get two people in Groucho Marx glasses scurrying around a set the size of a hospital broom closet.