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So kinda like what happened with Ava earlier this year with her and Sonny growing closer but with a different outcome?

Same.

RHOP I thought it was another low key episode. What stood out about it for me was that EVERYBODY had a little something going on. Nothing major, but like I mentioned before, I love that all the housewives have their little stories going on and they are continuing across episodes versus just fading in and out or vanishing all together. HW shows after all are about these ladies and their lives, and if they are not going to show their lives, then why are they here? And then...there's the incoming Gizelle vs Mia feud that I am sure is about to start. This has been the most that Gizelle has appeared transparent since the first couple of seasons methinks and she's coming across sooooooo well this year. Meanwhile, Messy Mia is slowly, but surely crossing a line. I feel like they are evenly matched so I can't wait to see where it goes. Cuz Gizelle let her know at the end of the episode...she might not be reacting right now, but she WILL be reacting. Trust that. LA DAME. One thing I love about HW shows is when we see the HW's kids. Moreso when we watched them grow up on the show. So it was great to see Ravyn again. And La Dame went to support Ashley. And her advice once Ashley (actually) gave some tea on how things are going with Michael and her divorce was wise. There IS so much out there on Michael Darby that if the sticking point IS Ashley or the cast talking about him when there's so much on him out there in the public eye...well...HOW MUCH will it take to be quiet? Smart dame. I also loved her and Gizelle rallying around Stacey in regards to her about-to-be-ex-husband. And don't think I didn't notice her giving Mia grace when the other ladies were coming for her. ASHLEY. Oooooh what angle is she working now? Cuz I was not expecting her to even be anything close to factual about her meeting with Michael. So much so she broke the 4th Wall AND spilled that Michael want no mentions of him ever again on the show. As if Ashley can control what the others say? I hope she takes La Dame's advice and use that fact to stick it to Michael cuz her HW train ain't going to last the way she's been acting this season. I expect better from someone with the same birthday as moi. WENDY. Someone else who gave Mia grace this episode. Better than me. lol. And she probably won't give her much grace after what Mia said to Gizelle about her parenting. Meanwhile, I liked we got a little step in the plot of mending fences between her family and Eddie's family. STACEY. Stacey continued to dazzle as she talked about her forthcoming divorce issues. It was wild to me to see her talking about it this episode at the same time Ashley was actually being (a little) open about her own. I still think Stacey will have hers done before Ashley, mind you. But her taking in what La Dame and Gizelle said. Her talking about it right down to her not knowing what a bill is. Or that she did not know about bills being in HER name. Just wild. KEIARNA. Interesting that she mentioned that she was in a lawsuit. And that lawsuit...her fight last season with Sesame Street. Hmmm...could that be why she's a housewife this season? Because outside of her feud with Mia, she was showing her life, but I wasn't feeling it this time around. Well outside of her man clearly not wanting her to film...kinda like Bob and her hubby over on SLC. MIA. I'm about to call her a bitca. lol. How dare she curse Jacqueline out when Jacqueline (like the Grande Dame and Wendy and even Jassi) was defending her at the table as Gizelle was coming for her. And then she clowned Jacqueline later on at the clothing store cuz Jacq HAS dressed soooo much better than the clothes that Mia was picking out for her. And if Mia was not doing that, she was again trying to spin that terrible narrative about G...with JACQUELINE'S help. I just did not get her this episode at all. I did get that she knew she was feeling the heat from Gizelle though. But what did she expect? You want that throne, she best be ready to be in the hot seat. And her response...to spill tea on something Gizelle told her off screen...WRONG ROAD, BOO, WRONG ROAD!!! If anyone can carry a grudge, it IS Gizelle. And one thing you don't do...come for the kids. Wrong move. GIZELLE. I was shocked at how much Gizelle was just showing her life this episode. Being with her kids and seeing how college was going. Trying to help Stacey work her way through her divorce. Side-eyeing Mia. Such a redemption season for her. Again...a good episode for tuning in to how EVERYONE is doing.

Hahahahahaha!!!!

Coming into December... On one hand, I did like the sharp focus on Thanksgiving. All the Newmans together. The Abbotts at their table, and to answer the question from the other thread, I want to say it was last year when we saw it last. Ashley was a LOT less catty this year, too. lol. I was happy to see Nate happy though I was more into the friction between Audra and Amy. On the other hand, I did feel momentum was lost this week. I love how now that we have the new ranch that the directors are using every inch of it in scenes or new ways whether it's Nikki looking out the window or Claire and Summer conversing in that little hallway I said that I've liked since they remodel the ranch set or Nick vs Adam in the little table/garden area. They are doing such a great job of using that set. And Victor and Nikki look so happy. Speaking of Victor...hehe...EB continues to be giving so many great moments. And I will always be here for him giving it to Billy...who was not at the Abbotts. I wished I care, but no. Which reminds me...I didn't get to finish it, but I enjoy Nikki vs Billy as well as Jill vs Billy...though I was mad that Jill had already left town and was back in the phone. So a decent week coming into December. Let's see if it flows.

Oh the way I just went s@it, s#it, s$it at Lulu not knowing about Luke. And then I thought...oh Lord...she don't know about Bobbie, either. smh. OMG VERY. It was clear when they filmed on different days...if you catch my drift.

Or dare I say...a shocking twist.

GET HIM, LAURA!!!

Lol. And knowing Brad, you are probably right.

Yeeeeeah so over the propping of Natalia. It's almost as bad as the propping of Sonny given what happened to Wagger.

Coming into December... So Brooke really threw her daughter under the bus?? Wooooow. I can't believe that they gave Carter and Ridge a whole montage. Have they really been close friends that long? Alas...this whole thing with Hope has completely tainted Carter. The stalker storyline continues. At least for me, it's intriguing. And I have no idea what they plan to do with Luna given the corner they have written her into.

Hahahahahaha!!! The struggle is real. I felt that. Same. Well, he is hated. Now CM and those angles...not so much. 😜

Yeah, I too would say the Newman Ranch reveal and the week surrounding the Devon/Abby wedding. This past week it feels VERY slight.

Just got finished. I usually don't until I've watched.

12-2 ohmygodohmygodohmygod!!! The spoil of riches to feast on this episode! I was happy to see that the writers actually have managed to KEEP the momentum they built up from last week. And seeing the promo for this week's events makes it looks like they will focus on the same A plots (namely Lulu's storyline and Ava's trial) with a different C plot...though I hope THAT isn't what they have in mind cuz UGH. Outside of Laura heading into the office...block filming at its best cuz I REFUSE to believe that once Lucky told Laura Lulu was up and did not know where she was...that Laura wouldn't have thrown all forces into finding her AND her own two feet. I wished the dialogue...which was really great...had reflected that rather than 'off to the office.' And speaking of Ms. A Plot herself...OMG YES on Lulu's reunion with Rocco and her reunion with Dante. And at least we got Laura's reaction from Lucky of hearing Lulu is awake and seeing her on the video of her escaping. All worth the wait. AB continues to play Lulu to the hilt from happy mother to feisty Spencer to her being overwhelmed at all that has changed. Especially hearing from Rocco (and I respect greatly it was an immediate family member that told her) it has been four years. I agree DZ might have been slow to warm, but he did warm. FC did a great job, and love all the Maxie/James shoutouts...now can't wait for her reunion with Lulu. I felt like just about every beat that could get hit was hit...while at the same time stalling out the major ones...namely Lulu's reunion with Lucky (which looks like it will be next) and Lulu's reunion with Laura...which I'm going to go ahead and assume is Wednesday/Thursday at this pace. That I was almost ready to yell at my TV for Laura to figure out somehow where Lulu was or someone call Laura...God...again, shocked at how invested I am in this storyline. Another storyline that I've been invested in has been the rift between Molly and TJ. And I was just thinking that it's probably time for the next step in it to happen. And this episode did that next step...separating. It felt organic regardless of how little play it's had over the last few months, but that might have made it that much more impactful to me. And sorry, TB had me when he got to the ugly cry and trembling of the lips. He matched KV's moves beat to beat for me. And the end of their scene echoing the start of their rift was perfect. I don't care for Drew at all, but THANK YOU to the costume designer and cameraman for the surfer seat. Meanwhile, still enjoying the Jason vs Drew feud. Still Team Jason. And this just showed that Drew cares more for his ego than what Scout and Sam want so he can't STFU. And what is Carly doing wandering the grounds? And I thought Danny did great with the eavesdropping on the happy family reunion. I do ponder what that will mean. Alexis v Ric will always be fun to watch. And there was a moment when Alexis lashed out at him about her daughter losing her baby that she was carrying for his daughter. The look AH had on his face...priceless. The briefness of emotions to dent Ric's smugness. Just so well done. We know how I currently feel about Kristina and SHUT UP SONNY. I honestly felt their scenes could have been in another episode to give the Lulu's reunion scenes even more room to breathe. This episode was just one of those cases of it seem clear someone *cough*frank*cough* wanted to go for those flashy cuts, but there was too much meaty material that it still was able to breath in spite of their attempts to not give the stories their due.

And that back. But seriously, I hope that is not the case. Yet.

Oh, no! Not Daddy Damon!!

Definitely. I don't think I've seen anyone...outside of a bad second season...lose all of the gained goodwill they got the season before so quickly. Where's my gal who was in on the joke of being a constant liar? Cuz this...TRASH. I agree. I do feel her second reunion chair was a wakeup call. And someone did have a Come To Jesus moment with her BTS after. But that's just me. And...Totally played her cards all wrong. And I don't know how she did that, but ugh. It is what it is. I never thought I would see the day where I would be on Gizelle's side, but I'm actively cheering her on now to take Mia down.

Indeed. I've been enjoying every moment of their rift.

Oh, SHUT UP, SONNY!!! Ugh at Anna. And Lulu FRONT and CENTER like she BELONGS.

I'm actually shocked that Liam did not appear, too.

She ain't the only one. I've been enjoying her and her THREE men. hehe.

And today is looking like the momentum is STILL going. So...good.

Not Ms. Quad and the airplane steward invites...LOL!!! And who cares about Sweet Tea anyway? lol. And...HELL-HO, KING!!!! The shock of Quad having a (hot) boyfriend who she's been with for a year(?) and a fabulous party was making everyone get noisy. Love to see it. Again...why is Shady Phae Phae here giving nothing? And go 'head Toya! lol. A bit worry about all the guy scenes...which is unusual for me with this show...but interesting. It really was background music...I promise. But still liking what I saw.

Not you singing my song! The single: HBIC lol Don't forget Gizelle know she want that first chair back. But seriously, if anything Mia going after Gizelle's kids when we all know she's a good mother guarantees that when Gizelle goes after her which she practically said at the end of the episode...everyone EVEN people that don't like Gizelle (like us) will be firmly on Team Giz to take out the trash. And sorry to say it since I'm her biggest fan here, but Mia IS being trashy. And I need her humbled. But like you said...Gizelle in interviews (along with her sidekick Ashley)...is already starting...