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Miami: Alexia enables her son Peter while Marysol enables Alexia. Adriana needs to go away Nicole talking about mean girls and queen bees then saying 'that isn't what groups are like'...and I'm like 'are you new here '?

SFT did a successful modernization in the 70s by becoming more balanced with a mix of veterans and younger characters. It even hit the top 4 in the mid 70s with a mini revival in the late 70s. For some reason, GL seemed to have more energy in the 70s than ATWT, even if the sets and lighting weren't Y & R quality. Edge's darker lighting worked for the crime and mystery vibe...it's 40s vibe worked.

RHOC Noella is too thristy... she needs to let others take a drink of the spotlight RHOSLC Never do a reality show if you're like Trump and tweet without thinking

Love of Life was an odd bird..at first the modernization seemed to boost ratings for a bit in the mid 70s...but a time slot change and constant writer changes doomed it.

John asked Nina out shortly after the Kimball ordeal..but she felt like she wasn't good enough to be with him. How she met Ryan was partly due to Cricket. She and Nina were having a girls night out at Gina's..and she trying to get Nina to open up. She saw Ryan sitting at the bar and convinced Nina to approach him. Nina and Ryan talked then hooked up. He had been at Gina's due to a fight with Vicki and having a drink at the bar. I recall when both Vicki and Nina sat his college graduation and bonded over their 'men' lol

I remember one day Estelle was popped up as an employee at the ranch and my mom was like 'where the hell is Miguel '. And then a throwaway scene mentioned he was gone and that all he got was a clock. When the secondary characters left, it left a void in Y & R

I think season 1 spent time getting to know the characters and setting up the plotlines that start to kick into high gear as season 1 ends. If B & B debuted in 2022 instead of 1987, Brooke and Ridge would have met in the first few episodes instead of in episode 60. Margo would have revealed her true feelings against Kristen, and Thorne would have started scheming to get Caroline by week 2....and Beth/Eric would have started their emotional affair with Stephanie figuring out who Beth was right away instead of becoming friendly with Beth weeks before she knew who she was.

the pace needs to slow down. I don't care about any of the characters because we haven't had time to know them yet.

Iris was written as the villain during Rachel/Carl's courtship..yet she was the only one with logic.

If you look at 80s primetime soaps like Dallas and Knots Landing...they had various plotlines at different places and there were slow builds. I think for a primetime soap to work, you need a soap writer in the writing room that understands pacing and payoffs. Queens had potential, but burned through soap plots too quickly

RH of Miami Season 4 is so like the original format of the show. Adriana gives me bunny boiler vibes..and I'm sure her son is relieved not to be around her. Alexia is a bridezilla lol. Her life is a telenovela and a movie of the week. Marysol and Kiki are perfect friends of housewives Larsa is trying to be a single mom..but her jewelry seems non descript. Lisa having no nanny lol. Now she gets what most middle and working class moms go through. Julia...hmmm..not sure about her. Nicole seems almost normal.. even with her issues with her dad. Least fave part was the contrived pajama party. Show doesn't need this element....that element actually has harmed the franchise

I think Dru should have been Mamie's daughter and causing trouble to get attention...and also stealing from the Abbotts out of resentment for her mom devoting herself to her second family over her.

RHOC Heather is not a genius, she's a Karen and what's wrong with humans. We need a Lydia to call out Heather's delusional narcastic ass. People tell Gina not to trust Heather, but has anyone stopped to think that maybe no one should trust Gina. RHOSLC Reunion looks are a hot mess...Heather's dress looks the best. Whitney's dress is as cheap as she is.

I thought it was because the actress opted to leave. She was a warmer ,motherly figure while Veronica's Mamie was almost too cold and mean as Mamie.

I was in one of the lives, and I posted in the live chat that he needed to be quiet until the guest was done talking..and to stop interrupting. Some posters agreed with me..and I'm sure he saw all of that.

Alan picks the oddest times to interrupt. I could understand if the conversation was not flowimg, but it's always when a guest is telling a story. And it's usually when a female panelist is talking. I'm curious how Sarah will be on 1/13. She's pretty outspoken so I hope she bull dozes over her Alan. I loved her on VR troopers and Cold Case.

Actually if I recall...Sheila was originally meant to be short term. Perhaps as a temp road block for Scott/Lauren. During that time, it seemed like Bell was also hinting at a Paul/Lauren/Scott triangle with Scott jealous of her friendship with Paul. While Cassandra was put off by Paul and Lauren's connection as well in 1990. Obviously Bell opted to do the baby switch. I'm wondering if he noticed the sparks between the two actresses and decided to switch gears on his plans.

It's weird that Depriest became anti woman...because watching her brief stint on the Doctors....she seemed able to write women as somewhat strong willed and intelligent. I do think she did somethings well in her stint..yet also had some misfires. MJ was weakened quite a bit..but that was partly due to the change of actress. When the new actress took over, MJ still had a backbone..but the new actress had a more passive take on the lines. She killed off Zane..but did bring back Mitch...and he caused friction for Rachel/Mac/Felicia. And she started Sam and Amanda...though was a waste making him related to Mitch. And Vicki/Jamie/Lisa did start under Depriest...but that didn't get much depth until Harding Lemay and Donna Swajaski took over...but by then Joanna Going was on her way out. And the whole Reginald thing was a rewrite. Pre Depriest, Donna was written as being close and loyal to her dad. Per a few conversations between Peter and Donna.

I always figured he went to Lauren as a rebound after finding out Cricket was his half sister. He always held both Lauren and Sheila to high standards..due to his repressed feelings for Cricket. In fact, I viewed Scott as the start of declawing Lauren.

I do recall the Jill/Kay feud was rested for a year or two..until Jill was serious with John and Kay dropped by to visit Jill. Jill vs Kay when Adair was playing Jill had a different element because Adair had a sweet exterior so that Kay looked unhinged while Jill looked innocent. It's probably why the feud didn't become revived until Dickson came back in mid 1983 as Jill. There's a channel on YT uploading episodes of Y & R...and I was surprised at some of the character interactions. I knew Traci and Lauren fought over Danny in 1983/4...but I was surprised Traci and Danny still interacted up to 1986..with Traci being almost a big sister to Cricket. When did Traci and Danny stop interacting with one another? By the early 90s, you wouldn't have known the two had previously been married. And I was watching Brenda Dickson's last episodes in summer 1987..and saw Lauren/Danny as one another's dates..with Nina playing on Phillip's insecurities when it came to Cricket and Danny. I'm curious as to when Lauren and Danny stopped interacting..since by the early 90s you wouldn't know the two were friends. And to this day Paul/Lauren are a couple that I wish had reunited..though I loved how they were still friends and would celebrate their anniversary long after the two divorced. And I liked that when Paul faked his death in 1989..he told Lauren he was still alive.

If you think about it, we kind of saw how Dallas would have gone if Linda Evan's had joined on Dynasty. Outsider marrying into the family, having to adjust to a new marriage, etc.

@Taoboi SLC Mary is so reminding me of Kim Richards. Quirky, says odd stuff, yet will drag someone when they come for her. Seth is fine I follow his Instagram for the occasional shirtless video. Whitney is a homewrecker, but if she were smart...she'd be minding her marriage since he'll probably cheat on her soon enough. OC I sometimes watch Kelly Dodd's reviews on the episodes..and she said Shannon doesn't have allies on the show so she's playing nice in those scenes. Emily and Gina have to pot stir because what else can they offer. With Shannon/Heather..they can feature their teen kids...Noella is a hot mess..while Dr Jenn has the shirtless hubby..plus can be seen at her job. So all that's left is to stir the pot

Brenda's Jill was cold and sarcastic..but there were moments when 70s Jill came out. I often think Jill and Katherine's whole dynamic shifted when Jess Walton took over. Before Jill and Katherine would trade insults and putdowns...but Jess' more intense take on Jill made them start to get physical in their fights.

Does anyone think Mick would have worked had a different actor played him? I hadn't seen season 3 for awhile..but I recall he still wanted Kristen...but was also being pursued by Macy (pre Thorne)...while Donna kind of liked him..yet also knew he was leading Macy on. I'm wondering had a different actor played Mick..if all that would have continued instead of all that being dropped.

I'm guessing this was in 1987. If so, it proves Brenda Dickson could still play Jill as human and not over the top.