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I don't think it was ever said, but I agree with you.

In terms that we would use, no. In terms of trying to hoodwink the lazy and desperate media, to a certain point. There have been buzzwords about opening voting centers in their campaign for black voters, Hispanic, Asian-American voters, etc. (they've actually been shutting them down or not funding them), the whole charade with Byron Donalds going to barber shops, and all the claims that black voters will flock to him if he picks Donalds or Tim Scott/Hispanic voters if he picks Rubio.

Most of the people who say that aren't actually going to do anything. These are people who post guillotine gifs and then go back to the townhouses their rich parents own. It's a very tantalizing fantasy on the far left that a revolution will rise because both sides bad (but of course Democrats are always worse in this argument, those "neolibs" and their "late stage capitalism"), but that revolution will only ever be from anyone but them. Their idea of revolution is arguing online about how in their hypothetical paradise, no one will get bananas because they are part of the oppression. That's why they were so happy when that man set himself on fire earlier this year - they could live (or die) through him). I don't have any real hope that it will. As said above, many white voters don't care - either they don't hear about this or they don't know what it means until it's too late. The press doesn't care either because they are personally fond of Trump and they miss him and the money he put in their pockets. They have spent most of today still focused on the debate, Biden's age, going on about how Biden must leave office, and playing tedious "toldja so" games acting like they alone were martyrs who spoke about his age when no one else would. I did hear that there was talk at the BET about Trump's "black jobs" comments. I hope that resonates, although it's not especially fair to put this election on their shoulders when so many other voters are falling down on the job. If Trump and his people grow more and more confident that they will win big then I could see him ramping up the racism even more than he has already. If he does pick Vance or Burgum as his VP then you know the mask is fully off.

Hope seems surer of herself to me in the Dobsons material. She seems too passive and almost literally fading into the wallpaper in what I've seen of her in the Marland material.

I didn't even know (or had forgotten past conversations) until looking at the AWHP synopses recently that when Steve told Alice about his father and family for the first time, there were flashbacks of him standing up to his father as he abused his mother. AWHP mentioned that they didn't know who played the father but thought George Reinholt might have. Does anyone know for sure?

Thanks. I want to be happier about this as Oliver was great on Corrie and Hollyoaks and the show desperately needs Sugdens (Victoria also needs to go away and this could help phase her out) but I don't trust the show. I expect him to start raping and beating women within about three months.

Dissensions, a pilot for a web series that never was, trying to generate interest based on "audience participation." Set in a greenscreen bar, there are a slew of stories, some of which grow increasingly deranged as they go along. You can feel the cheapness, but it's an interesting concept. I can't embed but just click on the link.

Benoît Jacquot, Jacques Doillon Questioned On MeToo Allegations (deadline.com)

I didn't have a problem with it because to me that's just Nikki. I liked Brenda a lot, even if it did feel like they lost interest in her once she and Victor split up. I know she didn't have the edge Eileen's Ashley had, but that was probably fading by the time Eileen left anyway.

Thanks @SoapDope what a treat.

Cindy and Lenore are definitely the standouts in terms of acting for the women at that time (Maureen Garrett is also strong but I think the writing for Holly is more limited compared to what she had later on). I notice with that period of GL compared to when the Dobsons were at ATWT that the characters all had such rich inner loves and complicated relationships, some of the acting weaknesses didn't stand out as much.

Thanks. That must have been before I started. I haven't watched enough of that period on Youtube to know most of the recurrers who were not on later on.

Renauld White Dies: 'The Guiding Light' Soap Star And Pioneering Black Model Was 80 (deadline.com) Another case of someone I'm not sure actually had that much of a role on a soap being called a soap star. I am not doubting Renauld White's own fame - I see him mentioned (including on here) when people talk of famous black male models. IMDB has him listed in a number of episodes off and on from 1987 to 1992 as William Reynolds. I have to admit I know nothing about that character. Do you?

Many undecided voters are attention seekers and contrarians. They don't care about anyone but themselves. This isn't Robert Smigel's best but it treats that voting group with the respect it deserves.

SNL was often racist at that time, and David Spade is a smarmy pain in the ass, but Eddie himself made jabs at Garrett Morris (who was having horrible problems with drugs at that time and was in a much worse position than Eddie was, although presumably whoever wrote that piece with Eddie did not know this) in an Update piece in his early months at SNL. There were also a sea of jabs by the show later on against Jon Lovitz and especially Joe Piscopo (who had made himself a national joke through bizarre career choices and steroid use). It was something of a punching down tradition on that show in its first 20-25 years.

Thanks!

I shouldn't be too hard on Shari because she was tolerable by the end but what a case of nepo hiring in much too important a role, even if Ashley had been slowly downgraded during Brenda Epperson's time in the part. I can definitely see them planning that quad. And then there were her multiple failed love interests, one of them just disappearing (Lauren's former stalker by another name). I don't know if those episodes are around or not but I still think the character was brutally beaten in late 1996 in part because Shari was so hard in the role that they decided viewers needed to feel for her again. I have memories of John or someone angrily saying what does it say about the world now if you can't go out walking in the woods at night. I remember thinking - I don't know of any world where you could ever go out walking in the woods at 2-3 in the morning, or whenever it was, especially in a city as big as Genoa City, international hub of business. Even Ozzie and Harriet didn't let their kids go out walking in the woods in the middle of the night.

I mostly just remember it for the sob story parody...either that or the Donna Summer song that has nothing to do with the show.

Hope's return was indeed very confusing. And Kurt Costner - just an odd story all around. This was also when Dina came back and they used Constance Towers to retcon her reasons for leaving, only for Dina to quickly leave again because she was so horrified by Shari Shattuck's bad acting.

This revival only ran for a season.

Talking about strange Y&R stories, Nikki marrying her new gynecologist would be near the top of the list for me. Some of Katherine's stories in the late '70s, like everything with Suzanne and being on a desert island with Felipe, also seem very odd to me. Leslie being an amnesiac at a club where Jerry Lacy does his Bogart routine... The whiteface story.

Thanks @jam6242 .. Interesting to see that a number of stories do carry over week-to-week. They packed a lot into their time on the air. The episodes about Bull's death are those I would most want to see. I wonder if they ever brought back the same white characters or mainly just had them as one-off antagonists.

There have been actors who have spoken of being physically abused in the street, like Eileen Fulton, so I imagine they knew. In other cases, it's more difficult, because it would entail reading social media posts about your work, and would you really want to do that?

As if life wasn't hard enough these days. I've been a fan for my whole life. Ever since I saw him in Clue and on Roseanne. And so much else. Fernwood 2Nite as well. Any time you saw him you felt happy and content. I did not know for a long time that he was also a great musician. He was so underappreciated; I hope he knew how many loved his work.