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At around 7 minutes there's a promo with some footage I've never seen (as we have so little of 1985). Is that Stacey getting into a fight with Ava?

Thanks so much.

Insert the why not both gif.

I think if Joanna Going had stayed, the writing would have been more balanced. Vicky tends to scrap with a number of women and the writing is generous toward them, even when the actresses aren't the strongest. The issue here is not only was Joanna Going...going, but there was so much more story in a baby between Vicky and Jamie as well as Vicky sleeping with her sister's husband. If the writing had been better and Jamie had been cast more strongly in these years, I think there was so much more with Vicky and Jamie as a couple that they could have done.

Thanks @Chris B And the beautiful Reed Diamond too.

Why do those thumbnails make me think Maurice is planning to become a magician?

Probably David Tom's first run as I remember him hurling a lot of that abuse at her when he first came back to Genoa City.

You're right. I forgot how long that story was (not counting Adam learning, which went nowhere). I won't disagree about how bad much of their ATWT run was. ATWT was in such dire straits in the early '80s it's amazing how the show managed to turn around by the mid '80s. GL had the opposite track. GL was extremely lucky that it got so many second chances and twists of fate.

I forgot about that. I need to get around sometime to watching the full movie.

Thanks @Paul Raven . I never knew Marland felt daytime would move to short stories. His GL stories are a bit shorter than what came before him (the Dobsons drew out stories for years) but by the time he moved to ATWT he seemed to let that go ("the truth about Aaron" ran for two years and Carolyn's murder for over a year and a half). The part about viewers being more forgiving of younger characters is interesting. I am not sure if that was true at the time but I don't think it is now. Instead soaps have just started writing older characters as if they were younger, like Nick the perpetual frat boy on Y&R. And young characters are written as older. "The only taboo in daytime is incest" is something I've heard him say elsewhere, IIRC, but I don't really agree. Soaps "covered" homosexuality and interracial relationships by the time of this article, but they faced visceral backlash. And I'm not sure they ever really progress significantly. But I imagine he knew this as he did try to do intelligent stories about both topics when he was at ATWT. I imagine he would weep at how deeply conservative soaps are now. @Mitch64 has spoken about this at times, better than I could, about the narcotized conversations, needing to redeem or clean up most characters, the emphasis on therapy, etc. I don't mind it as much at ATWT because I think the show is crisper, the cast is better at making these conversations seem natural, and you have Lisa and Lucinda who just couldn't ever be completely tamed (especially Lucinda). And I think it suits ATWT's core identity more than GL. I notice it more in his GL run, which can often feel very moribund to me.

Thanks for the responses. A shame they didn't do more with her. I guess at least it wasn't as bad as what they gave Loni Anderson.

Thanks. That's lovely.

Thanks. Glad you enjoyed it. Yes. This issue was dated December 17, so probably October or November.

I don't think she was even playing Mindy. It was an extremely weak, limited portrayal. Very difficult to watch.

I had to trawl through Google. That tribute of yours will never leave us though. I don't know if another soap that hadn't been established/dominant for as long as Y&R had would have survived the MAB years. The interviews alone were meme hell.

Yikes. That was my reaction too, Ridge...

A December 1996 SOD mentions ATWT casting an upper-class guy in his 20s named Brad. They said Todd McKee was approached but declined. (Todd McKee was not in his 20s by that time)

Indeed.

Thanks @JAS0N47 . I'd forgotten John Aprea was on DAYS. So many tragic losses.

@Maxim Now there's a B&B horror I remember (I had never seen that Daphne woman - what a clip...). Another I remember from somewhere in that period was when Ridge took advantage of a drunk or pilled out Brooke and this was seen as no big deal.

Indeed. And on P&G as well. I tried to find the actual promo for her arrival and couldn't. I guess it now counts as lost media. Maybe not such a bad thing...

He played Patrick Donovan on Loving a few times around 90-91. The only other thing I remember is an SPW article from the mid '90s where he talked about using videos of some of his work in churches or something along those lines, to help with public speaking.

Thanks for reading. If I ever get a chance I'll dig out some of my other scans, even if I know it's not exactly rare content. That was some fun stuff. And helped explain Maggie later snapping, before that story was dropped.

Donna Mills interview (how did people feel about her arc - was she mentioned when Jane returned?).