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15 minutes ago, BoldRestless said:

I watched on CBS and I had no idea what you were talking about. I just went to the original broadcast on the vault... that whole speech was cut today. Which goes to your point!

 

8 minutes ago, janea4old said:

They cut Neil's entire speech from today's broadcast.  CBS had to cut something to allow for more ads in 2023  and *that* is what they chose. 

What a shame.

It’s odd that, all during the pandemic when they aired classic episodes, they made the episodes available for viewing on the CBS website but not this one?

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4 minutes ago, DramatistDreamer said:

 

What a shame.

It’s odd that, all during the pandemic when they aired classic episodes, they made the episodes available for viewing on the CBS website but not this one?

As I recall, they didn't at first until people complained. It won't get picked up by most sites because it's not part of "Season 50." 

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34 minutes ago, DramatistDreamer said:

I just got a chance to watch, courtesy of the vault. What that video file lacks in visual sharpness, it makes up for with commercials of the day the episode aired. I enjoyed it.
At first, it made me a bit sad to see so many actors who we’ve obviously lost over recent years but as I delved deeper into the story, I found that it was enjoyable to revisit this time.

Ashley and Brad appeared to be peeping each other out and we can figure out that Ryan’s thoughts are occupied with more than seeing Abbotts at the picnic. The Young and the Restless did something you know the current writers would be loathe to do-acknowledge the actual times we’re living in. It was obvious that Neil’s monologue was a nod to the police brutality of Rodney King and the subsequent riots in response to the verdict. KSJ really made an unimpeachable case for his character being included in my soap character Hall Of Fame speeches during the holidays. The singing afterwards towed the line, in terms of almost being too much but considering the occasion, it was appropriate, I think. But at least back then, the show wasn’t afraid to acknowledge the real world, for better and for worse.

Y&R’s PSA’s were always awkward and embarrassing compared to anything on ATWT, GL or the ABC soaps but Bell always liked telling them as he felt it was important. The last really distinctive one I remember was back in 2003 when a couple of Arab/Middle Eastern executives of Newman Enterprises who came to visit their boss Victor came to visit Genoa City on Fourth of July briefly discussed the possibility the post 9/11 resentment hysteria of anti-Muslim sentiment in the US with Victor, Jack, and Neil. Yet somehow all Neil could muster up and say was “Ya I feel ya man”. Major yikes. 

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2 minutes ago, DramatistDreamer said:

 

What a shame.

It’s odd that, all during the pandemic when they aired classic episodes, they made the episodes available for viewing on the CBS website but not this one?

Did they sing 2 verses of America The Beautiful? 🤣

The most shocking reminder I got from that episode was how much Katherine cared about little Phillip. I forget that she considered him a grandson. That was so sweet. Today Chance is written like he doesn't' even know Kathinere, or Jill for that matter. It' such a shame how far the show has fallen.

 

 

 

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16 minutes ago, janea4old said:

They cut Neil's entire speech from today's broadcast.  CBS had to cut something to allow for more ads in 2023  and *that* is what they chose. 

I don't think they cut anything else.  Just Neil's speech.

Neil's speech was the highlight of the episode for me.  But of course CBS too scared to air it now.  His speech is a little over four minutes of meaningful fire.

On daytime today they wouldn't air four minutes of anything, especially not anything that mattered. I mean it puts Brock and Gina breaking into "America the Beautiful" into a whole new perspective. They cheated the audience out of a lot.

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17 minutes ago, Soapsuds said:

What else did they cut? The runtimes were longer back in the day.

Approximately 7.36 minutes worth of scenes before the opening theme. What a time, I don’t see those times ever coming back again!

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2 minutes ago, cattykittens said:

Did they sing 2 verses of America The Beautiful? 🤣

The most shocking reminder I got from that episode was how much Katherine cared about little Phillip. I forget that she considered him a grandson. That was so sweet. Today Chance is written like he doesn't' even know Kathinere, or Jill for that matter. It' such a shame how far the show has fallen.

 

 

 

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The kid looked afraid of Jeanne. 😂

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1 minute ago, cattykittens said:

Did they sing 2 verses of America The Beautiful? 🤣

The most shocking reminder I got from that episode was how much Katherine cared about little Phillip. I forget that she considered him a grandson. That was so sweet. Today Chance is written like he doesn't' even know Kathinere, or Jill for that matter. It' such a shame how far the show has fallen.

 

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They sure did sing 2 verses and a few people stumbled on the second verse, which is, in a way very realistic because who really sings the second verse? Lol

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57 minutes ago, soapfan770 said:

It’s good to see Carol in this too although her time was winding down by this point. 

I forgot Christopher Templeton passed away years ago from cancer. So that’s seven actors gone. Of course, Jeanne, Jerry, and Quinn were all older, but Michael, and especially KSJ, Beau Kazer, and CT were all relatively young when they died.

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17 minutes ago, soapfan770 said:

Y&R’s PSA’s were always awkward and embarrassing compared to anything on ATWT, GL or the ABC soaps but Bell always liked telling them as he felt it was important. The last really distinctive one I remember was back in 2003 when a couple of Arab/Middle Eastern executives of Newman Enterprises who came to visit their boss Victor came to visit Genoa City on Fourth of July briefly discussed the possibility the post 9/11 resentment hysteria of anti-Muslim sentiment in the US with Victor, Jack, and Neil. Yet somehow all Neil could muster up and say was “Ya I feel ya man”. Major yikes. 

Yes, I definitely don’t think of Y&R as having their characters deliver these sweeping speeches the way ATWT and GL would do, which is why Neil’s speech stood out to me. Also, just this morning I read an essay that discussed how Frederick Douglass and MLK were two examples of people who loved America, yet weren’t afraid to criticize their country because they wanted it to be better. When I saw this speech, I immediately thought of that. It added so much resonance to what Neil was saying and I understood perfectly why it had to be Neil/Kristoff delivering the speech. It could really only be him.

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25 minutes ago, DramatistDreamer said:

It added so much resonance to what Neil was saying and I understood perfectly why it had to be Neil/Kristoff delivering the speech. It could really only be him.

And, of course, to put it in perspective this was just a few months after the LA Riots, so the issue was in the public conscience. 

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2 hours ago, soapfan770 said:

I do wonder why the show hasn’t acknowledged Beau Kazer’s passing at all either? Seems like something easy that could be done with Jill, Esther, and Kelly Kruger Mac while Tucker, Devon and Chance lament the fact they didn’t spend enough time with Brock as they should have. 

the ship has probably sailed on that one but a tribute to Beau/Brock could (should) have been done'

Nikki, Esther, Jill, Ashley, Billy all had interactions and you could bring back Julia, Lorie, Leslie, Nina,Gina, Mac

Considering he never got laid on the show Brock worked his way through a lot of GC ladies!

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1 hour ago, BoldRestless said:

The kid looked afraid of Jeanne. 😂

I thought that kid was pretty happy with Kay blowing bubbles and the like. It seemed like they played throughout that entire party.

I thought Jill freaked him out. He said something like Neat, both my grandma's are here, but it almost sounded sarcastic. Jill's was so bummed out about how close they were, but we got a little taste of their rivarly. I miss them.

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2 hours ago, soapfan770 said:

Y&R’s PSA’s were always awkward and embarrassing compared to anything on ATWT, GL or the ABC soaps but Bell always liked telling them as he felt it was important. The last really distinctive one I remember was back in 2003 when a couple of Arab/Middle Eastern executives of Newman Enterprises who came to visit their boss Victor came to visit Genoa City on Fourth of July briefly discussed the possibility the post 9/11 resentment hysteria of anti-Muslim sentiment in the US with Victor, Jack, and Neil. Yet somehow all Neil could muster up and say was “Ya I feel ya man”. Major yikes. 

Yeah Y&R's attempts at social issues felt very after schhol special-ish, especially for a soap rooted in grounded storytelling. Ironically the show featuring rocks and weather machines was more adept at tackling matters like AIDS.

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27 minutes ago, Planet Soap said:

Yeah Y&R's attempts at social issues felt very after schhol special-ish

It was mostly the dialog that came across as very PSA.

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