39 minutes ago, Soapsuds said:

Tripp has been watered down so much. He doesn't have the edge he once had. The same goes for Ciara.

Rafe should just be a detective. That's it. Just like Dan was on ATWT. He had no life outside the police station. Rafe should just appear to solve crimes.

 

Yeah, Rafe can just be a detective with some snark. I'm good with that.

 

Tripp is so watered down and they're wasting him. He's Austin. The world is going on around him and his head is in the clouds. LOL. Such a letdown.

I guess I should try to watch yesterday's and today's to get a sense of the current plotlines lol.

And Ron does not write edgy men unless they're killers, quasi-rapists or other villains snarking on the rest of the normie characters. That's been his style for a long time, it's not new. The women are the focus along with the outsize villains/eccentrics or antiheroes. This is the same way it went at GH (and to a lesser extent, OLTL) when layered male leads lost all definition and became dupes. All other men are reduced to hapless, oft-naked hunks on par with Austin's worst years.

2 minutes ago, Vee said:

I guess I should try to watch yesterday's and today's to get a sense of the current plotlines lol.

And Ron does not write edgy men unless they're killers, quasi-rapists or other villains snarking on the rest of the normie characters. That's been his style for a long time, it's not new. The women are the focus along with the outsize villains/eccentrics or antiheroes. This is the same way it went at GH (and to a lesser extent, OLTL) when layered male leads lost all definition and became dupes. All other men are reduced to hapless, oft-naked hunks on par with Austin's worst years.

 

Yeah you're right lol I shouldn't be surprised

I like MM, I think she's great, she's not lead actress material, no but she does great with the material she is given

5 minutes ago, dragonflies said:

I like MM, I think she's great, she's not lead actress material, no but she does great with the material she is given

And therein lies MM's problem.  She is good and does great with her material, but Belle should be a lead and Martha just lacks something to be a lead.   She is just sort of bland

Honestly I don't think she show is invested in Belle no matter who is in the role. Look how awful they write Brady and he's a lead and even Phillip, two IMO completely unrootable characters 

1 hour ago, Craigger said:

Why are we seeing smirky Will? Of course Chandler will take any job and copy Freddie who, last Christmas, wouldn't come back to the studio but said if you can skype me in, I'll do it. Chandler is copying Freddie. I love Freddie Smith's channel. Well worth the $$. He tells it like it is. Days wanted him back and he said no. Onward & upward Freddie. He is missed at Days.

Oh so that's why you had shade for the new Sonny. Makes sense now. 

They definitely don't feel invested in Belle or Shawn. And having a teenage daughter didn't help. Especially when they were off-screen for most of ORK's run. Ron seems to want them around but the investment definitely isn't there. Why aren't Eli and Lani and Belle and Shawn friends? Abby/Chad/Eli/Lani/Belle/Shawn would be an interesting grouping. Not saying swap them, just friends.

Edited September 22, 20214 yr by KMan101

3 minutes ago, KirkB said:

Oh so that's why you had shade for the new Sonny. Makes sense now. 

He's just a troll. Nobody in their right mind thinks that a YouTube "career" is onward and upward, especially when Freddie's videos only get about 1000 views each. Nor is anybody in their right mind paying money to watch "exclusive" YouTube content of Freddie and his wife. The stuff they post for free isn't even good. Maybe if you pay the monthly fee you get to hear Freddie talk some more about how he's jealous of Zach Tinker? 😂

Today's show looks so boring that I don't even have the motivation to turn it on.

8 minutes ago, KMan101 said:

They definitely don't feel invested in Belle or Shawn. And having a teenage daughter didn't help. Especially when they were off-screen for most of ORK's run. Ron seems to want them around but the investment definitely isn't there. Why aren't Eli and Lani and Belle and Shawn friends? Abby/Chad/Eli/Lani/Belle/Shawn would be an interesting grouping. Not saying swap them, just friends.

Didn't Lani and Shawn date?  And she was in love with him, but he dumped her for Belle?  I vaguely remember this happening awhile ago but that's never been spoken of since so?

Belle and Shawn have been made to be lame.  They lack something both of their parents had/have and I don't think it's the performers fault.  They need a super villian or adventures and they don't get that.  Plus, MM/BB don't have much chemistry. 

Edited September 22, 20214 yr by carolineg

7 minutes ago, KMan101 said:

They definitely don't feel invested in Belle or Shawn. And having a teenage daughter didn't help. Especially when they were off-screen for most of ORK's run. Ron seems to want them around but the investment definitely isn't there. Why aren't Eli and Lani and Belle and Shawn friends? Abby/Chad/Eli/Lani/Belle/Shawn would be an interesting grouping. Not saying swap them, just friends.

I don't care for Belle and unfortunately Shawn is mainly seen as her appendage these days.  Shawn and Eli are cousins but I'm not sure that's ever acknowledged.  Shawn should be around for whatever is happening with Doug (especially since Hope will be a no-show unless there is a recast), but the last time Shawn mentioned him, he referred to him by his first name, rather than Grandpa.

6 minutes ago, AlexElizabeth said:

He's just a troll. Nobody in their right mind thinks that a YouTube "career" is onward and upward, especially when Freddie's videos only get about 1000 views each. Nor is anybody in their right mind paying money to watch "exclusive" YouTube content of Freddie and his wife. The stuff they post for free isn't even good. Maybe if you pay the monthly fee you get to hear Freddie talk some more about how he's jealous of Zach Tinker? 😂

Today's show looks so boring that I don't even have the motivation to turn it on.

The Days Episodes airing now were filmed in May when CM was in Atlanta and do a scene like did with Johnny and then Allie, a zoom call makes sense

 

Beyond Salem was filmed late July and Chandler came to LA to do those 5 episodes and is open to coming back. 

Wow, why do I have no recollection of Lani and Shawn together? Was this a backburner romance that got no airtime? What was their story? 

1 minute ago, AlexElizabeth said:

Wow, why do I have no recollection of Lani and Shawn together? Was this a backburner romance that got no airtime? What was their story? 

Yes Lani was into him but he got backtogether with Belle. I believe this was before Lani originally left Salem

 

Then she came back with the secret that her & JJ had screwed around

I am pretty sure Lani was into Rafe too and he hooked up with Hope instead.  The Shawn stuff was the reason she left Salem initially.  It wasn't memorable.