Members Paul Raven Posted March 11, 2021 Members Share Posted March 11, 2021 Let's not forget Sharon the cancer survivor whose marriage is in trouble weeks after it happened. Jack with a woman who could be his grand daughter. Any promising stories are trashed due to poor pacing, ridiculous plot turns etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ajsp35801 Posted March 11, 2021 Members Share Posted March 11, 2021 I, too, thought that giving Amanda a mother and sister was a smart move made brilliant by the casting and characterization. I'm still hoping that plans are to bring the sister on full time as a foil for Amanda. But yet, we seem to be stuck in the drama less qaud. Mind you, Amanda/Devon/Elena/Nate could have been an entertaining smutty story. But everyone is so nice and understanding. Meh. I wanted this bad but it just hasn't been fun nor soapy. I'm ready for it to end and move on to something new. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ranger1rg Posted March 11, 2021 Members Share Posted March 11, 2021 Terrible pacing. We saw no Sharon and Rey honeymoon, and as you said, that was followed by marital troubles just weeks later. I have no problem with a Jack and Sally story as long as Sally is a gold digger from hell, a throwback to the old Jill. Make it nasty and juicy, even if you repeat the same effing scripts from decades ago. I do not want to see marital bliss with Jack and Sally. How boring would that be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Paul Raven Posted March 11, 2021 Members Share Posted March 11, 2021 Think back to Lorie/Lance/Leslie/Lucas and the years they got out of that. If say, Nate and Amanda had been a little less 'nice and understanding' without becoming psycho villians, the twists and turns of this foursome would be way more interesting. A few little lies and self serving actions wouldn't go astray...and an interfering parent for Elena or Amanda couldn't hurt- but there is no budget or interest in older characters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Faulkner Posted March 11, 2021 Members Share Posted March 11, 2021 Missed the beginning, but has Tara (Ashland’s wife/Kyle’s babymama) been crying, or does she have an eyeshadow problem? Characters (whose performers aren’t involved IRL) not being able to kiss is a REAL problem for this show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members FrenchBug82 Posted March 11, 2021 Members Share Posted March 11, 2021 (edited) Not going to belabor the former point because, well, if you are sure you can be sure, you will never be convinced that you can't be sure of anything you didn't personally witnessed. But it is worth repeating that MM is an excellent actress and very charismatic and her talents are not at all in question. I'd reckon some of her scenes around her mother will land her Emmy nom for sure. But I stand by my take that Amanda is not working - and more than happy to blame the writing. I mean the show has been bad about those kinds of romances before (Sharon/Victor is still one of the vilest moments in the history of the show for me) but I think it is highly doubtful they are going to try to sell us the story as a proper romance. Of course Sally has an angle. For me to accept it, and I really want to, they need to have the character and acknowledge the obvious, and I hope PB's ego can take it. I need to have people comment on how weird it is and Jack express self-confidence issues regarding being so much older etc. If they make the age difference an explicit point, then I can follow the story where it takes us. Hopefully not a triangle with Kyle but the new story seems to be taking him away from that direction which is a relief. And on that note, I think this actually helps the Sally/Jack story and make it easier for me to accept. I am not sure I'd feel the same way about seeing where it goes if we were ever to be treated to physical affection between them, if you know what I am saying. Edited March 11, 2021 by FrenchBug82 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ajsp35801 Posted March 11, 2021 Members Share Posted March 11, 2021 I just remarked to someone rye other day that Y&R had turned the page. Younger characters are leads. Older characters serve the story of the younger generation. I think Billy/JT is probably the oldest actor getting story. Even Victoria and Nick struggle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Vizion Posted March 11, 2021 Members Share Posted March 11, 2021 This show continues to be disappointing and look poor. Why the hell are all of these business meetings happening in a hotel room beside a bed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Paul Raven Posted March 11, 2021 Members Share Posted March 11, 2021 Precisely. They need to pull back on the business side of things if they don't intend to present anything near to realism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Fevuh Posted March 12, 2021 Members Share Posted March 12, 2021 Nothing in the recaps and summaries or spoilers makes me want to watch. It all sounds terrible. And Jack and Sally? God. There's no reasoning that for me so I'll stay tuned out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ponds Posted March 12, 2021 Members Share Posted March 12, 2021 I think it's ridiculous to pair the two of them. Can't they find an attractive woman for Jack that is more age appropriate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Faulkner Posted March 12, 2021 Members Share Posted March 12, 2021 One thing that sucks: characters don’t have individual voices, with very few exceptions. Ashland’s dialogue could have easily come from Jack. Very formal, generic businessman. Don’t love the styling for Richard Burgi either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ranger1rg Posted March 13, 2021 Members Share Posted March 13, 2021 Burgi’s styling is fine, but I agree with you about the generic dialogue. No sense of personality at all. What is the name of this company anyway. Who the frick calls their company Siaxories or whatever the eff it is? I honestly can’t make out what they’re saying or what it’s supposed to stand for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members slick jones Posted March 13, 2021 Members Share Posted March 13, 2021 Whatever the name of the company, it should be the new "HI Bob" drinking game... "Siaxories"... drink It would be great if Chelsea made it all the way to Sharon's house and have Nikki "accidentally" shoot the intruder on the property... After all, it's been a few years since Nikki almost iced J.T. Is Rey next in line for an aneurysm? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members lucaslesann23 Posted March 13, 2021 Members Share Posted March 13, 2021 Cyaxares. King of media is what the name is based on. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyaxares Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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