Members Antoyne Posted August 5, 2020 Members Share Posted August 5, 2020 It's so weird to see how minimized Jill became. A. She should still be working at Jabot honestly. In basically every classic, Jabot is such a huge part of her life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Faulkner Posted August 5, 2020 Members Share Posted August 5, 2020 And Rowell and Stafford were fabulous together. Sorry we didn’t get any Dru/Phyllis scenes, unless I missed them. Making them adversaries was a genius idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members crc Posted August 6, 2020 Members Share Posted August 6, 2020 (edited) Thank you FrenchFan for taking the time to give such a thorough history of their story. I really appreciate it. I've only watched Y&R from the mid-90s to early 2007 and I don't recall Jack and Gina being close during that time. Maybe Gina and John. Of course Gina was just that lady that owned the restaurant everyone went to and anybody's talk-to at this point. Oh, and Jack was such a horn-dog back in the day. HA! That's a lot of women he was linked to in such a short period of time. The Dru/Jack scenes were dripping with BTS tension. Especially when it came to their dialogue. Just saying. Damn, I missy Victoria Rowell. I stopped watching when she left and won't watch again unless she miraculously returns. Edited August 6, 2020 by crc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DaytimeFan Posted August 6, 2020 Members Share Posted August 6, 2020 Yes. Moving Jill out of the Abbott sphere generally, which started around 2003 with the Kay is Jill’s mother storyline, and was complete by 2005 with Gloria taking her natural role in the Abbott storyline, was absolutely wrong. It hurt the Abbotts generally, the Jabot angle, Billy specifically, and Jill as well. Jabot mattered for the character because Jabot was where Jill found her independence and purpose and excelled at something. It is also an issue the show could fix instantly. Such a shame they don’t seem interested in doing so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members kalbir Posted August 6, 2020 Members Share Posted August 6, 2020 Only two more classics left Please register in order to view this content Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members trainman Posted August 6, 2020 Members Share Posted August 6, 2020 I wouldn't be surprised if they shut down again due to the virus. There may be more classics on the horizon (though only some are truly classics to me). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members sheilaforever Posted August 6, 2020 Members Share Posted August 6, 2020 I whole heartedly agree. Jill vs Gloria could have been much more fun than it ever was - playing these angles. By 2005 the writers really stopped caring for Jill, the Ji-Min story worked due to the actors but apart from That, it was either a collossal waste of Jess Walton’s time and talent or a criminal track record of ill-fated plots: Cane, Sista-Lauren, Colin. Don’t get me wrong: TEB and Tristan Rogers are both amazing in their own right but these plots were so hideous and hastily thrown together... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members kalbir Posted August 6, 2020 Members Share Posted August 6, 2020 Today is the last classic w/ Shemar. I wasn't digging his new look when he returned. He came back for less than a year before departing for Criminal Minds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Darn Posted August 6, 2020 Members Share Posted August 6, 2020 This promo makes me sad but I like the shot of MTS sitting in front of two Emmys as if they're hers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Antoyne Posted August 6, 2020 Members Share Posted August 6, 2020 (edited) One thing the classics have really made me appreciate is just how normal and warm Sharon was before the 2000's completely destroyed her as a character. She was such a perfect heroine before all those writers just took a sledgehammer to her. And I stand by Josh Morrow still having his best chemistry with Sharon Case. I hate how much they've damaged Nick/Sharon as a couple through the years and this insistence now that Phyllis is just such a better fit for him than Sharon. Also I can't believe Lauren has been shackled to the Baldwin/Fishers for 15 years now...Geez. Edited August 6, 2020 by Antoyne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Soap-princess Posted August 6, 2020 Members Share Posted August 6, 2020 I absolutely agree. I never thought Phick had romantic chemistry. It was always sexual, but as a society we now value quick and easy relationships along with dysfunction and the fans loved them. I think it’s part of the reason why BM received so much clout as Billy. There is no way, in my opinion, Kay Alden could have written for him with Mac in 2000, but people enjoy charisma, fun, and sex rather than simple, romantic and decent characters now. And I hate what happened to Sharon over the past decade too. I’m not sure if SC would get screen time if she was written how she was in 1994 unfortunately. Look at Elena. She’s barely written for because she’s too nice, but characters like Chelsea who are annoying and useless keep coming back. When the writers try to write for heroines people call them boring and they drop the story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bbforever Posted August 6, 2020 Members Share Posted August 6, 2020 Can someone please add this week's Sheila episode to the vault? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Members BetterForgotten Posted August 6, 2020 Members Share Posted August 6, 2020 Well, he can keep praying as he won’t get any of that with Morina and Griffith in charge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Chatty Cakes Posted August 7, 2020 Members Share Posted August 7, 2020 I never understood the Phick chemistry claims. All I’ve seen is that Phyllis will let Nick toss her around in the shower or anywhere else and then they eventually break up. I used to be a Sharon and Nick fan but he’s cheated so much I’d just as soon she didn’t bother with him for a long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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