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January 2025. Lovely interview with Isabella Rossellini about the film Conclave, the city of Rome, nuns, her mother Ingrid Bergman, etc etc etc
 

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Am I the only one upset about The Golden Globes not making Viola Davis Cecil B. Demille Award a part of the telecast?

I was really looking forward to it and didn't find until later that she was honored off-camera in a private ceremony. I got to watch it on YouTube but it left a bad taste in my mouth.

Why pull this with Queen Viola? I'm so used to them making the Cecil B. Demille a moment on the show. I don't even recall them mentioning Viola until she came on stage. 

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This is so bizarre. And quite disrespectful. Viola Davis is a master. Shame on the Globes. 

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The Academy Award nominations are here!

List of nominations in full for Oscars 2025

The major categories:

Best picture

  • Anora
  • The Brutalist
  • A Complete Unknown
  • Conclave
  • Dune: Part Two
  • Emilia Pérez
  • I'm Still Here
  • Nickel Boys
  • The Substance
  • Wicked

Best actor

  • Adrien Brody - The Brutalist
  • Timothée Chalamet - A Complete Unknown
  • Colman Domingo - Sing Sing
  • Ralph Fiennes - Conclave
  • Sebastian Stan - The Apprentice

Best actress

  • Cynthia Erivo - Wicked
  • Karla Sofía Gascón - Emilia Pérez
  • Mikey Madison - Anora
  • Demi Moore - The Substance
  • Fernanda Torres - I'm Still Here

Best supporting actress

  • Monica Barbaro - A Complete Unknown
  • Ariana Grande - Wicked
  • Felicity Jones - The Brutalist
  • Isabella Rossellini - Conclave
  • Zoe Saldaña - Emilia Pérez

Best supporting actor

  • Yura Borisov - Anora
  • Kieran Culkin - A Real Pain
  • Edward Norton - A Complete Unknown
  • Guy Pearce - The Brutalist
  • Jeremy Strong - The Apprentice

Best director

  • Jacques Audiard - Emilia Pérez
  • Sean Baker - Anora
  • Brady Corbet - The Brutalist
  • Coralie Fargeat - The Substance
  • James Mangold - A Complete Unknown
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Demi Moore is who I'm rooting for the most, though I wouldn't mind if Mikey Madison or Fernanda Torres snagged it. Lead Actress is really the only interesting category this year.

Emilia Perez is rightfully already known as one of the worst movies to be so successful at awards season. At least they spared us a Selena Gomez nomination.

Isabella Rossellini winning would be amazing to see. Who doesn't love her?

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Absolutely rooting for DEMI MOORE. That should be her moment. She deserves this. Entire career has been leading up to this. And I would also love for The Substance to win BEST Director. Best Male Actor - Sebastian Stan! 

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I'm happy for Guy Pearce, Isabella Rossellini, Jeremy Strong, although I won't be watching. 

I'm also glad to see those Luca Guadagnino movies snubbed. I know some people loved them, some critics and viewers I respect, but overall I did not care for the marketing or tone of them, or the way most fans treated them as fetish material or as an excuse to push Zendaya as their fashion queen, then acted shocked when their memefests did not magically materialize into awards contenders.

They seem to have no value beyond people who like to get horny over straight actors playing gay (or doing a half-assed version of a very vague bi tease) and who make fancams. These are stunted softcore by way of music videos. Maybe Luca can team up with Bruce LaBruce, who would at least have used real parts if he was going to have Daniel Craig rutting around for awards bait.

Challengers was, with a few exceptions, a movie that will only be remembered by people who think being cute on letterboxd is a mark of quality. Zendaya will likely never be able to get out of a very limited box and no amount of style and expertly orchestrated media will change that. That's not unusual for stars, but you can't be shocked when she doesn't get an award. I'm sure if she stays around long enough she will get a nomination, deserved or not...if the Oscars are still on by that point.

Emilia Perez seems to be almost universally hated, which makes sense. I'm more surprised that awards voters like it so much. I guess they managed to package othering and degrading stereotypes for a new era.  

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I think both Guadagnino's movies are brilliant, particularly Challengers, so I'm not thrilled they were snubbed. But not surprised. I don't connect unrelated fan content (or conduct) to the quality of the movie itself, which had nothing to do with the product. Do I think either needed a ton of nominations? No, but I would've liked to see a bit more, particularly for Mike Faist.

I'm glad both Conclave and The Brutalist got some recognition, though I am still unpacking the epilogue of The Brutalist. I do think Fiennes should probably win. Isabella is lovely and very talented but there was no reason to nominate that small part other than who she is (a la Jamie Lee Curtis, who should've won for a role they would never nominate in Halloween 2018 so they gave it to her instead for EEAAO).

I have no interest in Complete Unknown, and I still need to see The Substance this week. I saw Fargeat's first film and it was solid.

Oh, and very happy for Anora and Mikey Madison. I still need to see The Apprentice and Nickel Boys.

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I could agree about Queer, but I think everything about Challengers was intensely tied to that brain dead tiktok mentality as soon as they got Zendaya involved. The focus became about her, and oh see those cute dumb boys follow her, our fashion queen, and so on. It got his film more interest than it might have otherwise (there's only so many times you can get people to care about which straight actor might or might not kiss another boy this time), but I think the choice to become about Zendaya shut down most major awards consideration, especially now that we're past the MTV Movie Awards era. I know the soundtrack was widely praised, so the rejection of even that might mean there's some kind of bad blood surrounding Luca at present with certain voters.

I do agree Isabella got a career nomination, but I prefer her to who else might have been in (I would say Danielle Deadwyler deserved the nod instead, but I don't think they would have chosen her).

I like Sebastian Stan well enough, but I think getting nominated for playing Trump may do him more harm than good in the long run.

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But that has nothing to do with the actual movie. I think the movie is excellent.

Oh, and Lily-Rose Depp should be on there. That's a shame she wasn't nommed.

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I think when you cast Zendaya then the whole fanbase and media campaign around her becomes an innate part of the story. Sometimes that can work for a film - all the baggage Demi Moore brings to The Substance, for instance - and sometimes it can't.

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I don't. Her star image never had any relationship to her character in Dune, particularly Part Two. But while Challengers uses her persona (because the character in Challengers is also a megastar, in the vein of the Williams sisters) it also inverts it in a certain way. She is far from perfect, all-seeing or infallible. In the end the film is a love story about the boys as much as her if not IMO moreso. The male bond is what none of them can shake. It's the platonic happy ending of something like Ken Russell's polyamorous Women in Love, or a somewhat more honest version of Robert Towne's Personal Best (which also ends similarly).

I don't think Zendaya is Viola Davis, but she's also not Paris Hilton. She has a specific range of talent, possibly, but she does keep challenging herself and the work she's done this year has been pretty good (I can't speak to Euphoria, as I haven't seen it). I'm only interested in the memes or online reaction if some of it's funny, but stan culture has no bearing on watching a film to me.

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