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B&B - April 2017 Discussion Thread

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20 minutes ago, Elsa said:

Brooke should be the show's new Stephanie by now, with a younger character who acts a lot like early-Brooke reminding her who she used to be. Maya could be this woman, if she wasn't the world's most boring transsexual. 

 

 

:lol:

22 minutes ago, Elsa said:

After thirty years we still have no idea who Brooke is. Is she a chemist? A tough businesswoman? A blonde trophy wife? A slut? The most interesting thing about the character, the love for her children was ruined after the Deacon mess. After Brad turned Stephanie into Stefano Dimera, the complexity of that relationship was ruined as well. 

 

At one point I wanted Brooke to run a fashion house to compete with the Forresters, while Ridge was happily married to Taylor. A little bit like Dynasty's Alexis. At another point I wanted Brooke to marry Bill and have Steffy seduce him, a little bit like Stephanie/Eric/Brooke or Kay/Phillip/Jill with the triangle lasting for years and years. 

 

Brad kept getting her married twice a year for more than a decade, mostly to Ridge, other Forrester men or the long-forgotten Nick Marrone, without thinking that she would have to be the show's matriarch at some point. 

A great post with a lot of great ideas. Unfortunately, Bradley Bell isn't capable of writing material that doesn't involve adultery or sleeping with the same person over and over again.

3 minutes ago, DaytimeFan said:

 

+1 in a major way. The biggest problem is that Brooke wasn't transitioned into being the show's matriarch, which is solely Brad Bell's fault given that it was clear Susan Flannery was not going to be like Jeanne Cooper and stay with the show to her dying day, particularly after Flannery's bout with colon cancer. There was a solid 3 year period prior to Flannery's exit when it was clear that she was planning to leave the show and that's when Brooke's transition from youthful vixen to slutty matriarch could have been done smoothly. Brooke vs Steffy would have been golden in a Kay vs Jill feud. Ronn Moss leaving when his contract negotiations fell apart certainly didn't help matters...

 

I really don't understand why Brad Bell would hold anything against Katherine Kelly Lang for doing Italy's Dancing with the Stars - it's certainly good for B&B's PR. I have to wonder how true those rumours are...Ronn Moss has said that he's never heard from Brad Bell since he left and was told about the Thorsten Kaye recast by voicemail, after he asked Brad to not recast the character, so it seems there might be some real bad blood there. 

Ronn Moss may be the worst actor in daytime history but he is Ridge. TK is NOT Ridge and never will be and his acting is just as bad.

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6 minutes ago, Soapsuds said:

 

Ronn Moss may be the worst actor in daytime history but he is Ridge. TK is NOT Ridge and never will be and his acting is just as bad.

 

Ronn is the hammiest of hams, but I always enjoyed his particular brand of cheese:

 

 

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We know exactly who Brooke is. A SLUT!  She should never take over show matriarch. Besides, KKL doesn't have the skill to carry a show as matriarch.

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12 minutes ago, DaytimeFan said:

 

Ronn is the hammiest of hams, but I always enjoyed his particular brand of cheese:

 

 

Lawd....LOL....he has a growl to his acting when he gets mad.....LOL   I thought the Rick recast was even worse with that actor in the role. Just horrible.

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But Brooke wasn't always a slut. For the first decade or more she was written much better than that. It was when Brad Bell deteriorated as a writer that the writing for Brooke became worse by the year (just like it did for everyone else).

He had the perfect opportunity to transition Brooke into a more matriarchal position when Amber joined the show. It was so obvious that she was poised to be the next Brooke on the canvas.

I also wish that Brad hadn't been so quick to end the Brooke/Thorne romance. It could have made for such great storyline with Thorne going up against Ridge for power at FC and having Brooke as support would have given him a much stronger position.

Oh, the wasted opportunities.....   <_<

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38 minutes ago, DaytimeFan said:

 

+1 in a major way. The biggest problem is that Brooke wasn't transitioned into being the show's matriarch, which is solely Brad Bell's fault given that it was clear Susan Flannery was not going to be like Jeanne Cooper and stay with the show to her dying day, particularly after Flannery's bout with colon cancer. There was a solid 3 year period prior to Flannery's exit when it was clear that she was planning to leave the show and that's when Brooke's transition from youthful vixen to slutty matriarch could have been done smoothly. Brooke vs Steffy would have been golden in a Kay vs Jill feud. Ronn Moss leaving when his contract negotiations fell apart certainly didn't help matters...

 

The thing ishe almos did that. I saw change with Brooke prior to Stephanie dying and it seemed that she was going to be the matriarch. Stephanie even approved and sanctioned it. However then Bell went and hooked her up with Bill, throwing away all that character development away. With that she lost any credibility

 

I still say getting rid of Hunter Tylo hurt Brooke's character. Brooke vs Stephanie may have been the first feud but Brooke vs Taylor was definitely more entertaining and did wonders for both characters as the actresses' had chemistry and gave each other's characters plenty of material to play off of. I loved seeing it reignited after Stephanie died but then Bell got rid of her and Brooke's been boring since

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2 hours ago, Elsa said:

Brooke should be the show's new Stephanie by now, with a younger character who acts a lot like early-Brooke reminding her who she used to be. Maya could be this woman, if she wasn't the world's most boring transsexual. 

 

After thirty years we still have no idea who Brooke is. Is she a chemist? A tough businesswoman? A blonde trophy wife? A slut? The most interesting thing about the character, the love for her children was ruined after the Deacon mess. After Brad turned Stephanie into Stefano Dimera, the complexity of that relationship was ruined as well. 

 

At one point I wanted Brooke to run a fashion house to compete with the Forresters, while Ridge was happily married to Taylor. A little bit like Dynasty's Alexis. At another point I wanted Brooke to marry Bill and have Steffy seduce him, a little bit like Stephanie/Eric/Brooke or Kay/Phillip/Jill with the triangle lasting for years and years. 

 

Brad kept getting her married twice a year for more than a decade, mostly to Ridge, other Forrester men or the long-forgotten Nick Marrone, without thinking that she would have to be the show's matriarch at some point. 

 

I love this post. 

 

Brad was so short-sighted when it came to Brooke. So much wasted potential.

 

Before she left, Brooke was almost Brad's sex dream. Once she came back from Italy, she was reduced to a B-character, basically the last wheel in every story. I guess the same can be said for Bill in the last few years. But I mean, it speaks volumes that Brooke is the only character who has not had a portrait of herself hanging in the Forrester mansion LOL...

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Is Darlita any relation to Darla, or has any character at least been like, "OMG, what a coinky-dink..."?

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13 minutes ago, SFK said:

Is Darlita any relation to Darla, or has any character at least been like, "OMG, what a coinky-dink..."?

Nope to both. I know Darla was ditzy but was she as stupid as Darlita bc that girl is dumb as hell. She brings a new meaning to being slow

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I agree with most of the above statements about Brooke. I personally thought they nearly destroyed her with the Deacon thing. It SHOULD have, in my opinion, been a turning point. She behaved briefly after that, staying in Stephanie's guest house, trying to focus on Hope and being a new mom. Then they had her go after Ridge yet again, followed by more of her slipping into the same man crazed behavior. I also thought the rape storyline, where KKL finally got a chance to show some acting ability past the usual, could have been a nice chance to grow the character. Nope. 

 

It's annoying to see how many things Brad Bell ruined with that character. Watching the very first 1987 episodes, Brooke was a loving sister. Cut the 2000s and the Logans are all self serving to some extent. Switching men, crying about betrayal constantly.  Brooke was, at one time, a character you could at least believe cares about her children's best interests. Cut to the Deacon mess and they ruined that.  This all MIGHT make sense if they portrayed her as a woman corrupted by money, power and fame, but that's never been written in. The Forresters are certainly spoiled and largely selfish, so it would make sense  for Brooke to end up that way. I just wish they would acknowledge it as part of the story. 

 

The drunk story might have worked for me, but they had to drag Deacon back into it. It just made Brooke look even worse. It's like all roads lead back to her being man crazed. 

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TK is a wonderful actor who's wasted in the Ridge role. No one's worse than RM, no one. KKL has improved alot. I think Don Diamont is a good actor but most of the time he chews the scenery so bad.

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I agree about TK, he's a great actor, but they're giving him [&#33;@#&#036;%^&amp;*]!

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So we are suppose to buy this break up by Thomas and Sally? We are suppose to care? Why? They have this great love for each other??:lol:

 

Coco Puffs and RJ....:rolleyes::rolleyes:

 

Patrika Darbo...:lol:  She is a hoot!

 

Pierson Fode get some acting lessons fast!!  You need them!!

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1 hour ago, Soapsuds said:

So we are suppose to buy this break up by Thomas and Sally? We are suppose to care? Why? They have this great love for each other??:lol:

 

Coco Puffs and RJ....:rolleyes::rolleyes:

 

Patrika Darbo...:lol:  She is a hoot!

 

Pierson Fode get some acting lessons fast!!  You need them!!

 

Tally have known each other for 10 friggin weeks! Dumb-as 'I fell in love first' Ugh. 

 

RJ continuing to channel Eric - it's perverse they are having a 15 yo channel this wise and sage advice. And when did they start home schooling him?

 

PD's delivery is awesome. I love how she gave it to CoCoPuffs. 

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