20 minutes ago, Khan said:

Patrick Duffy's concerns about Bobby becoming too goody-goody were legitimate. But what I want to know is why Bobby was allowed to become goody-goody in the first place, when David Jacobs had envisioned Bobby at the outset to be more like Brick from "Cat on a Hot Tin Roof." Not killing him off was one thing, but turning him into a near-total saint just because J.R. was so rotten was another thing entirely, lol.

I wonder how much was down to Duffy's range as an actor. And how quickly plans changed as Gary seemed to inhabit a great deal of what they initially had in mind with Bobby.

That article seems to be trying to create drama, implying that Victoria or Ken had badmouthed Patrick when their quotes don't mention him.

3 minutes ago, DRW50 said:

I wonder how much was down to Duffy's range as an actor. And how quickly plans changed as Gary seemed to inhabit a great deal of what they initially had in mind with Bobby.

I've wondered that, too. I do think Patrick Duffy was/is very limited as an actor and that a big reason why they didn't kill off Bobby was because he looked good in a Speedo.

2 hours ago, Khan said:

a big reason why they didn't kill off Bobby was because he looked good in a Speedo.

You noticed that too.

Loved Sue Ellen here.

I cannot believe some of you here are checking for Patrick Duffy 😂

Between Dallas, Step by Step, and B&B, Patrick Duffy has been on television most of my life and he has never done anything for me.

35 minutes ago, kalbir said:

I cannot believe some of you here are checking for Patrick Duffy 😂

Between Dallas, Step by Step, and B&B, Patrick Duffy has been on television most of my life and he has never done anything for me.

Duffy was hot in Speedos, and Shakelford was hot in his gray warm-ups. His large/big manhood was very visible.

13 hours ago, kalbir said:

Between Dallas, Step by Step, and B&B, Patrick Duffy has been on television most of my life and he has never done anything for me.

He's never done much for me either, but I don't deny the appeal he has with many women (and some men), lol.

16 hours ago, kalbir said:

I cannot believe some of you here are checking for Patrick Duffy 😂

Between Dallas, Step by Step, and B&B, Patrick Duffy has been on television most of my life and he has never done anything for me.

16 hours ago, Soapsuds said:

Duffy was hot in Speedos, and Shakelford was hot in his gray warm-ups. His large/big manhood was very visible.

3 hours ago, Khan said:

He's never done much for me either, but I don't deny the appeal he has with many women (and some men), lol.

The body was great -- Exhibit A at 1:41 -- but the hair didn't do it for me.

If we're keeping it real here none of the males on Dallas ever did anything for me.

Larry Hagman had numerous love interests 20+ years younger than him, but he never had a glow up and I never thought of him as being handsome.

12 hours ago, kalbir said:

If we're keeping it real here none of the males on Dallas ever did anything for me.

Same here, lol!

21 hours ago, Khan said:

He's never done much for me either, but I don't deny the appeal he has with many women (and some men), lol.

Oddly, he found his forte in comedy and he and Somers were very hot together. I did a rewatch of the sitcom and the parents on that show were pretty sex positive... it was nice to see :)

I think in regards to Bobby, wasn't the original plan that he was supposed to have been killed off early in the run of the show with Pam having to battle the Ewings? When plans changed and he was kept alive... the edge and toughness of Pam had to evaporate and they became the tortured love story .

1 minute ago, Soaplovers said:

I think in regards to Bobby, wasn't the original plan that he was supposed to have been killed off early in the run of the show with Pam having to battle the Ewings?

Yes, that was David Jacobs' original plan. He thought that having Pam - Bobby's widow, and the daughter of Jock's nemesis/Ellie's former beau - square off against J.R. and the rest of the Ewing clan would have made for excellent drama - and, of course, I think he was right, lol.

By keeping Bobby alive, however, Pam lost agency (aside from whining about J.R. and pining for Bobby when they were apart) and even Bobby lost his playboy edge, because he now needed to be the white hat to J.R. black hat. It just wasn't as interesting of a show to me as what it COULD have been.