1 minute ago, Days22 said:

 

Yeah I bet! haha

Well in Y&R's case, for Sally and Kay....yet I'm slightly overwhelmed at the moment, and will leave it at that! haha

Edited December 30, 20168 yr by YRfan23

Just now, YRfan23 said:

Well in Y&R's case, for Sally and Kay....yet I'm slightly overwhelmed at the moment, and will leave it at that! haha

 

Well anything is better than Pratt at least

 

I do think Y&R is at least salvageable unlike the other 3 

22 minutes ago, Days22 said:

 

Well anything is better than Pratt at least

 

I do think Y&R is at least salvageable unlike the other 3 

Despite everything, as long as their SSM and Alden's names are attached to these episodes, I will keep tuning in! 

10 minutes ago, YRfan23 said:

Despite everything, as long as their SSM and Alden's names are attached to these episodes, I will keep tuning in! 

 

I cant say the same lol, but I do think that with them the show will never be consistently awful like most of the last ten years 

Just now, Days22 said:

 

I cant say the same lol, but I do think that with them the show will never be consistently awful like most of the last ten years 

It definitely isn't as plot driven so far which is good, but I do expect (as thus far) some boring days, but that's what Y&R always sort of was anyways.....the only difference is that Production and the music was a lot better...

4 minutes ago, YRfan23 said:

It definitely isn't as plot driven so far which is good, but I do expect (as thus far) some boring days, but that's what Y&R always sort of was anyways.....the only difference is that Production and the music was a lot better...

 

I've found most days boring so far, but I do enjoy the improvement to a lot of the characters. I actually don't mind the production nor music, or lack there of. It is kinda British soap like. Maybe that is what Mal is going for. 

3 minutes ago, Days22 said:

 

I've found most days boring so far, but I do enjoy the improvement to a lot of the characters. I actually don't mind the production nor music, or lack there of. It is kinda British soap like. Maybe that is what Mal is going for. 

I wonder if Mal will try to do some old EastEnders stories and adapt them on Y&R?

Edited December 30, 20168 yr by cassadine1991

Just now, Days22 said:

 

I've found most days boring so far, but I do enjoy the improvement to a lot of the characters. I actually don't mind the production nor music, or lack there of. It is kinda British soap like. Maybe that is what Mal is going for. 

Character improvement (especially Victor's) is definitely the bright spot, even if some days and the actual stories are still mundane......I can possibly get use to the lack of music like the British soaps, but It's just kind of glaring IMO that having 2 Bill Bell writers back, and one of them writing and having a CO-EP credit, I was hoping some of the classic music would be heard, but nothing yet....again I will give it time...

1 minute ago, cassadine1991 said:

I wonder if Mal will try to do some old EastEnders stories and adapt them on Y*R?

 

He was at BBC for some of my fave years of EastEnders but idk how much influence he had on that show compared to others. Y&R could use some of those stories if they can fix their characters enough. 

 

6 minutes ago, YRfan23 said:

Character improvement (especially Victor's) is definitely the bright spot, even if some days and the actual stories are still mundane......I can possibly get use to the lack of music like the British soaps, but It's just kind of glaring IMO that having 2 Bill Bell writers back, and one of them writing and having a CO-EP credit, I was hoping some of the classic music would be heard, but nothing yet....again I will give it time...

 

Some classic YR music would be awesome, but idk if we're gonna get it. It does not seem like Mal's style at this point, but you never know

7 hours ago, YRfan23 said:

Were those scenes cut from the actual wedding episode? 

How did you know those scenes were cut from the wedding episode? Did they already air that classic Y&R episode in Canada?

2 minutes ago, CBRVA83 said:

How did you know those scenes were cut from the wedding episode? Did they already air that classic Y&R episode in Canada?

Oh I don't know, The episode has been posted on YT before, and those scenes with Jack and Patty have never been included in that episode, yet they always say "while Victor and Nikki were getting married"....so I assumed maybe for some reason whenever that episode was reuploaded that person just cut out those Jack and Patty scenes..

So can someone please explain to me why AH is never going to be fired for her lousy performances? Who loves her up there among TPTB? Is she some CBS executive favorite?

4 hours ago, Days22 said:

 

It doesn't have to be some massive change but in no way does the transition have to be as slow as possible.

 

Then it's good that it's not.

1 hour ago, Aback said:

So can someone please explain to me why AH is never going to be fired for her lousy performances? Who loves her up there among TPTB? Is she some CBS executive favorite?

 

I defended her for a long time but I found her behavior with David Tom to be petty as hell. I feel like she is kept around because of the Bacteria fanbase. Fanbases dominating Y&R's creative decisions have killed this show.

10 hours ago, DramatistDreamer said:

 

I've enjoyed a few episodes, here and there but I can definitely understand impatience. Maybe my standards are too high?

As they say, it's never gonna be what it was. At the same time I can't really blame people for wanting that.  Maybe because I was watching the show even at it's worst, I'm not disappointed by what I'm seeing now. For me, any improvement is welcome.  I'm finding the day to day so much more watchable. I'd say Sharon and Victor were rehabilitated almost immediately and given their importance to the show that's no small feat. I was seriously done with both of them and if someone had told me I'd feel differently in three weeks, I would not have believed it possible.

 

@GMac I do think they've left the door open for Hillary to be innocent of tripping Mariah. I'm guessing she did it because she didn't deny it and it seems like that would be her first reaction, but if they go the other way at least the groundwork is there.  I understand why this is the catalyst for Devon's meltdown. He's forgiven her over and over again and given every possible chance. She made a fool of him once too often and this time in public. It's not like he asked Hillary for a divorce or anything, so I don't feel like he drew the line because she hurt Mariah.

 

As for Mariah, I don't think she came out clean in this at all. I was glad she didn't retaliate physically though. At the same time this was a charity function and she ruined it. Add to that, Devon took a real chance on her and has given her opportunities she wouldn't have gotten based on merit (she totally lacks education and experience) alone. She could have gone to him privately if she really remembered what happened. Instead, she betrays him. I like Mariah a lot, but that little toast with Chloe at the end came off as petty given what she had just done to Devon.