DISCUSS

Edited August 1, 201411 yr by Marco Dane

I think it's a little easier with GH than with some other soaps, because we saw Jon Hanley (?) in the 90's, we saw a few other gay recurring characters starting in the mid/late 90's. It's just that what we're seeing now makes no attempt to connect to that more sincere attempt at representation. It's just a grafted on knockoff of Eating Out.

Perhaps. But it still disturbs me how their sexual preference(s) virtually preclude them from ever leaving their "gay bubble" where they can share in long-term romantic entanglements only with each other.

That's what people of specific sexual orientations do, Khan. They only !@#$%^&*] the people they're attracted to. It's the same thing with the heterosexual characters. I enjoy talking to myself.

Anyone here watch Shameless. Id love Ian & Mickey type gay roles on Daytime but I feel TPTB would never follow thru

Never mind.

Edited August 6, 201411 yr by Khan

Never mind.

Edited August 6, 201411 yr by Khan

OMG--too funny--I was going to use Eating Out as an example in my last post. I swear they watch the movie series and get their jollies about RC being on their set!

You wanna know what else is beyond ridiculous? Your continued presence on this board, along with the fact that your presumed intelligence and sense of self-importance give you the right to call anyone's opinions "beyond ridiculous" and "nonsense".

I'm just not seeing the net value of whitewashing the social consciousness of these shows in 2014, which are severely arrested in development to begin with compared to cable or primetime, back to an antiquated state of affairs which neither of us were alive or conscious to watch. Because if you go down that rabbit hole of taking 'em back, it doesn't just stop with the gay characters. Back then we had far less black characters, we had even more interracial romances being dismantled and shouted down by the South. There's a reason no one ever remembers all that much about GH before 1977. So the question becomes, what's the upshot? Who is the audience in 2014?

You wanna know what else is beyond ridiculous? Your continued presence on this board, along with the fact that your presumed intelligence and sense of self-importance give you the right to call anyone's opinions "beyond ridiculous" and "nonsense". But if we must put up with Jonnybro and with EastMA, then I guess we have to put up with your stank ass as well.

Good. It's probably the only audience that'll never walk out on you.

That's not true, Khan, I used to own a houseplant.

Oh, this is the best thing ever.

Never mind.

Edited August 6, 201411 yr by Khan

Can deer even eat that?

Nah, the thing is I do think it's a ridiculous viewpoint, though I don't think Khan is ridiculous though we obviously violently disagree. I just find that to be an incredibly nihilistic (and therefore ultimately pointless) view of not only daytime but television in general. If you decide you can risk nothing beyond the antiquated sociocultural codes of 30 or 40 years ago, why make the product at all? Where is the audience?

And I think the idea that gay characters are inherently limited because they can't romance women too is backwards, to put it mildly (again, this is in 2014). By that logic we can get rid of all the straight males because they won't be [!@#$%^&*] Lucas, Brad or Felix. Maybe Nathan can take a shot but that's it, the rest are going on the James Lipton Express.

Yes, let these damn shows go back to doing what they used to do: stories, written by White folks, about White (heterosexual) folks, and for White, heterosexual folks. Because, to tell you the God's honest truth, when they did, they were a whole heckuva lot more entertaining.

The other problem is that even if you did that, that show wouldn't sell anymore.

That's a consequence of poor or variable writing. It has nothing to do with whather or not gay characters and their storylines can function on soap opera. They can like anyone else, and I thought Kyle and Fish did just fine for the most part, as has Will on DAYS in patches - but that's DAYS for you, not the gay couple.

Wow I actually agree with EVERYTHING you just said. The only thing the Brad/Lucas/felix story prooves is that RC should never be allowed to write anything more complex than a restaurant menue

He can write it, he just won't.