Eve was not stillborn but she died very quickly. My memory is fuzzy but I do remember a scene where Victoria and Cole went to see her. It was heartbreaking. I am glad they had her mention her daughter too. I also love have been loving all the Jill scenes with Victoria and Chloe. I get the feeling that Jill will not be a fan of Ms. Kelly.

My memory is now horrible...I don't remember still...I feel like I never saw the scenes at all. But I clearly remember Victoria being pregnant, her being engaged to Neil, etc. just no particulars about the birth.

Edited December 30, 201311 yr by ajsp35801

They also didn't mention Eve at all when Victoria miscarried Brad's baby, which was such a ridiculous, glaring omission (naturally, I'm sure neither LML or the scriptwriter even knew Victoria had another baby). I kept waiting for it to happen, to be tied back to such a momentous occasion but... nope.

I forgot about the baby she miscarried with Brad.

Edited December 30, 201311 yr by full hearts

Watched today's show live (2nd viewing for me) and noted that Victor's PI stated that the driver of the black SUV was a man. I didn't see (someone posted on the 28th) that Kelly made a donation to Delia's foundation on today's show or the previews for tomorrow. Not sure if Kelly White (name on the SUV list) is also Kelly Andrews (director of the GC charity org and Billy's "friend." ) If the SUV driver was a man, they should have eliminated all but the male names on the list in Victor's office.

And I know, I know MM is leaving and so Adam is too (for a while at least anyway) but Jack pandering to Adam made me feel like throwing up. I'll bet he wouldn't try to pull that crap in the presence of Ashley. It is DISGUSTING how lines like that are/were allowed.

Edited December 30, 201311 yr by bluejeanbaby3

Here's another one of these best of worst of list Y&R version.

http://soaptownusa.com/?p=5348#comment-5954

Watched today's show live (2nd viewing for me) and noted that Victor's PI stated that the driver of the black SUV was a man. I didn't see (someone posted on the 28th) that Kelly made a donation to Delia's foundation on today's show or the previews for tomorrow. Not sure if Kelly White (name on the SUV list) is also Kelly Andrews (director of the GC charity org and Billy's "friend." ) If the SUV driver was a man, they should have eliminated all but the male names on the list in Victor's office.

And I know, I know MM is leaving and so Adam is too (for a while at least anyway) but Jack pandering to Adam made me feel like throwing up. I'll bet he wouldn't try to pull that crap in the presence of Ashley. It is DISGUSTING how lines like that are/were allowed.

I hate the Jack and Adam relationship. Hate it!

I hate the Jack and Adam relationship. Hate it!

+1

Man, I missed the Baby Eve reference.....I don't really know that much about that story, but for those who watched during that time,did people feel it was necessary to kill off that baby? I wonder if things would have worked if she lived and returned as a teenager......perhaps she could have been written as psychotic in homage of her grandmother EVEHOWARD (as Victor said her name)

I agree that I hope they start some type of animosity between Jill and Kelly, maybe Jill will bring out her true colors......

I always smile when Jill calls herself "Jill Abbott".....Can they seriously just find a way and say that they F*cked up and Jill was Liz's daughter all along......They could still have Lauren and Jill be BFF's if not sisters.....I enjoy seeing Lauren and Jill interact more then her and Phyllis.

Edited December 31, 201311 yr by YRfan23

Kelly's true colours are revealed in tomorrow's US episode during her exchange with Stich. It appears neither of them are who they appear to be. Kelly comes off as a nasty wrench, which should hopefully make the story more interesting.

Kelly is CRAY.

Kelly's scenes with Stitch is the first time I've seen either character alive. Something about her reaction to Stitch trying to stop her from telling everybody about them...was good.

Hopefully it will be interesting.....honestly i'm just hoping they are still wrapping up Griffith's stories because though somewhat improving, it's not totally improved yet....( I think I said the same thing last year.....)

Am I the only one who wishes that Jill would have some sort of affair with Stitch? I think giving a Jill a younger love interest would totally sizzle.....especially if my dream came true and it turned out Stitch was really one of the long lost Brooks relatives or Chuckie.....I know that's far fetched because they sort of gave a backstory to Stitch....which I totally forgot most of....and obviously he knows Kelly now.....

I REALLY hate to say that I think a Jill and Dylan affair would be hot too......that would really give Jess and Melody great stuff to play off of.

Edited December 31, 201311 yr by YRfan23

After seeing tomorrow's show, I am sold on CW. She pulls you in...she can play sweet and sad then turn on a dime and play threatening. Her Kelly is already far more interesting than MCE's Chelsea ever was...

David Tom is going to look like a little boy next to CW.

And Amelia Heinle.

Funny thing is, David Tom is 1 1/2 years older than Billy Miller. IMDb has DT's birthdate March 23, 1978, and BM's birthdate September 17, 1979.

Edited December 31, 201311 yr by KateW

Good genes in the Tom family