What they desperately needed was a Marland/Dobsons/Curlee-type writer and never got it.

I also think Pamela K. Long would have better much better suited to AW than GL, as her strengths were always friendships and dynamic female characters.

I truly think it became the bastard child for PGP during its last 15 years or so.

Edited May 9, 201214 yr by Y&RWorldTurner

I truly think it became the bastard child for PGP during its last 15 years or so.

I definitely think it was, although they never became the big cause celebre the way OLTL seemed to be in this area. If they had maybe they would have lasted longer, who knows. I wonder how much difference would have been made if they'd ever managed to bring in a good new family, one popular with viewers. All of their new families which had popularity were popular for parts, not wholes (Kathleen and Jake of the McKinnons, Vicky and Donna of the Loves).

Edited May 9, 201214 yr by CarlD2

Of all the ABC soaps, GH is the one I've always felt the least connection with. I did start watching, mostly on hearing buzz about how great it was in the mid-90's, but it just never really had that pull or heart for me. There was a certain disconnect and I thought a lot of their main characters were just unlikeable or shallow and suffocating (Brenda, Jason, Sonny) or felt wildly out of place (Laura). I did enjoy Lucy but she was on the way out. The others I enjoyed were barely on, like Audrey, or the Quartermaines. I get the feeling that I was watching in the wrong era. I sometimes felt that way about OLTL too, but I loved enough individual characters that I felt more of a draw.

I pretty much gave up on AMC after Stuart's whodunit, but I'd tune in occasionally. I was shocked by one scene with Daniel Cosgrove, who showed more skin than I've ever seen on daytime. Anyone who has seen it or the caps knows what I'm talking about, LOL.

Through JHB & BE, I remember a lot of skin. But ya, my AMC viewing became nearly nonexistent after Pratt seemed hell bent on destroying it. I did tune back in for Greenlee's return and watched pretty regularly through LB's interim stint, but tuned out again when it became too evident that DK & DS were just (way!) worse versions of JHB & BE.

The lack of shirtlessness was more a post Pratt thing--90s AMC especially did have a lot of shameless use of it, though never at DAYS levels IMHO.

I forgot that Cosgrove scene! But it almost was the exception that proved the rule--it was a bit shocking (although Cosgrove was one of the people who showed his ass on GL I think, in the brief pre "Nipplegate" experimentation with mild male nudity the daytime soaps tried about three times).

Y&R: Oh, how the mighty have fallen. It seems that the reasons most people hate Y&R are the reasons I loved it. The pauses, the arch quality of some of the actors, the slow pace, how seriously other actors take the characters (Braeden, Bergman, Scott, Cooper and Walton)...Y&R has fallen apart since Kay Alden left in 2007. I really would have preferred the show just end in 2007 rather than endure the crap that's on the air now.

I grant you that--I said I never fully got into Y&R except for short periods, but I admit I appreciated for a long time that it stayed true to its original style--that really was a huge part of its identity and why it stayed so stable for so long, while most soaps changed style every few years in the last few decades.

YUP! That's the one. For some sick reason I really want to see how that went down. *goes to hide in his shame closet*

"Say hello to Mr. Turkey Baster." Six words that will live in soap infamy.

Several years ago, I was eating lunch at our local diner, one of the television sets was on, and Passions was on. I saw several young people stop what they were doing and huddled themselves around the television. Those poor, misguided fools...I knew soaps when they were in their heyday. I'll never understand how an iconic show like Another World was thrown overboard for this nonsensical piece of doggie do-do.

AGREED!

Another World was great and Passions was absolute crap. NBC made a huge mistake.

But....but..At least they replaced it with another soap instead of some stupid pretentious lifestyle show. *cough* ABC *cough*

Every time I watch this show, I get this sense of middle-aged to-near senior men and women are running around Los Angeles acting like immature 20 year olds.

Which isn't too far off the mark from the real L.A., actually.

"Say hello to Mr. Turkey Baster." Six words that will live in soap infamy.

Those are for bastin'! Not baby makin'!

I just loved the earlier comment that B&B is 'the Brooke has sex with everyone except Stephanie' show. I thought they reached a new low about that masquerade sex boink with her daughter's boyfriend, thinking it was Ridge. GMAB If you've been with someone as long as Brooke has been with Ridge, I am sure that there are certain tricks, maneuvers etc...(I'm trying to put it delicately) that is unique to Ridge alone. I get so tired of Brooke longing for 'her destiny.' If and when this cra*fest is ever cancelled, the last show should be Brooke realizing that she is, in fact, a lesbian, and that is 'her true destiny' ! ROTFLMAO

Taylor has had sex with as many men as Brooke. It's just easier to put that label on Brooke because she doesn't behave like a prude then drop it for various generations of men when the door is closed.

If anything, Brooke should have been shocked by how much better "Ridge" was at it all-of-a-sudden.

LOL. That's kinda like Todd/Victor on OLTL. How could Blair not tell that it was ummm...'different'

Now. I understand Tea's confusion. She only slept with 'real' Todd once.

Agreed. Anybody who spent years with a narcissist like Ridge would be thrilled at how much his performance was improved.

I thought it sold itself that way but the reality of the stories was often very regressive, especially the treatment of rape.

Weren't women raped on a daily basis on that show? I remember reading something about Theresa being raped by Alistar repeatedly, and that one time, Gwen overheard the rape happening and did nothing about it but smirk. That's just disturbing, IMO.