Members DRW50 Posted July 17, 2011 Members Share Posted July 17, 2011 I never thought the show was saying TSJ Todd was insane in the Tarty story. I thought they wrote it as his family driving him insane and Marty being his salvation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MontyB Posted July 17, 2011 Members Share Posted July 17, 2011 Not being sensitive here, but what's really gay? Gay is gay and Baz is definitely not feminine acting. Just curious as to what it means. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cheap21 Posted July 17, 2011 Members Share Posted July 17, 2011 You just contradicted yourself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MontyB Posted July 17, 2011 Members Share Posted July 17, 2011 DH didn't know what she was doing. Anyway, i can agree the with some of what you said, but I if RH played the role all along, things would have gone drastically different. RH would have never played the "rapemance". It just would have happened. We would would be seeing a totally different Todd, as ironic as it may be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DRW50 Posted July 17, 2011 Members Share Posted July 17, 2011 I don't see how. The buildup before he found Marty was when he went really off the rails. After he found her was when he began distancing himself from the family and became more and more isolated with Marty, as more and more viewers seemed to see this as some great love story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MontyB Posted July 17, 2011 Members Share Posted July 17, 2011 Which is just sick. IMO, that was the worst thing RC has written during his tenure at OLTL. I can even deal with this porn nonsense, but the rapemance will ever go down is my most hated OLTL story. I'm hoping RH is the real Todd. At least that will somewhat correct a drastic wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members psychofan Posted July 17, 2011 Members Share Posted July 17, 2011 ITA with all of that! Todd is Todd no matter who was playing him. And LOL at people who are talking about how things would be different if RH had been Todd all along. RH would have done what the scripts said the same way that TSJ did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MontyB Posted July 17, 2011 Members Share Posted July 17, 2011 Apparently, you don't know RH's history with the show. Why do you think writers in the past complained because he wouldn't play certain things? I seriously doubt he would have gone for the rapemance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cheap21 Posted July 17, 2011 Members Share Posted July 17, 2011 You are right in that he wouldnt play it; he would have just left the show. Thats probably the only story I think he would have had a major objection to and they'd probably alter it to cater to him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Antoyne Posted July 17, 2011 Members Share Posted July 17, 2011 I actually respect TSJ for doing his job and playing the story. It actually annoys me when actors try to dictate story. That [!@#$%^&*] doesn't fly in other jobs and at the end of the day being an actor is a job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members dragonflies Posted July 17, 2011 Members Share Posted July 17, 2011 and I would have applauded Roger if he'd left. At least he cares about the Todd character. TSJ sure doesn't, it seems to be just another job to him. +1 NO offense but this is dumb. An actor knows their character better than anyone, even better than the writer's. if it's something majorly OOC, then I say object away. It's NOT dictating, it's caring about the integrity of the character you put your heart and soul into. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Antoyne Posted July 17, 2011 Members Share Posted July 17, 2011 If you're playing a character who is a rapist, and multi time attempted racist I don't see what character integrity you' have to protect. Not to mention everything else Cheap listed that RHTodd did during his run. The character has and always will be a sociopath no matter who's playing him. To whitewash his actions because RH came back for a paycheck is stupid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cheap21 Posted July 17, 2011 Members Share Posted July 17, 2011 Its not the actor's character; it's the shows and they are fit to do as they see fit. If they dont want to play whats in the script, then they need to get out. Im with Antoyne. I dont like when actors think they can just change scripts up, throw hissy fits and flat out ignore whats given to them. Some actors have huge egos and seem to presume they should have more power than they actually have Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Vee Posted July 17, 2011 Members Share Posted July 17, 2011 I don't judge TSJ or SH for playing that story. I still think the story - or at least the love scene and everything following it, along with the stuff with Starr and Tess - should not have made it to air. And yes, RH's Todd did many, many terrible things during his original run on the show. But there were all sorts of circumstances - few of which excuse him - and he never violated certain skewed principles within his own character. He never turned on Starr or ever thought of repeating his mistake with Jack. He never used Jessica's illness against her. And he never, ever raped again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cheap21 Posted July 17, 2011 Members Share Posted July 17, 2011 Manye of that has to do with the fact that they were thrown in different circumstances. Who's to say RH's Todd wouldnt have acted the same way had he been around? Jessica didnt have a diagnosed illness back then. He also didnt have to deal with teenage kids and all the problems that went along with it. He didnt rape a woman again but he wasnt above abusing them with his fists Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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