3 hours ago, Vee said:

Relevant news from Errol.

Whoa. When he was on Soapy, Rebecca and Greg asked Ron what he was working on and he didn't give a specific answer. In the same conversation he also mentioned having dinner with Agnes Nixon a few times even once in her home, which was the penthouse of a hotel in Manhattan and how Agnes would call down to the kitchen and order dinner. How loaded was Agnes such that she can live in a hotel with full time room service? So cool.

Edited 19 hours ago19 hr by Jonathan

Here's the thing. If Ron does a halfway decent job with the AMC movies, he'll probably get to resurrect OLTL in some way, shape, or form.

At 43:47.

As much as RC soured for me over the 2-3 years of OLTL, I'll reserve judgment. Everything about this is unprecedented, so it's hard to gauge what/who will work or won't. The possibility of him writing the movies really can't sting that much when it just means that the movies are still happening...right?

But yes, why in the world is this taking so dang long? I truly believed that the Christmas movie would come out at holiday time of the year these were first announced. As time goes on, it will be harder to maintain ties to the original series. The majority of the cast members we'd hope to see will be in their 60s-80s. If SORAS is taken into consideration, the "next generation" characters we'd expect to see will be in their 30s-40s, but we won't even know them.

16 hours ago, Vee said:

We'll see, I guess!

I don't think Agnes' young love formula had aged so much as some of the details did or didn't work depending on the moment. I remember thinking her reintroducing the town class system, snobbery, etc. in the late '90s and early 2000s was refreshing and kind of neo-classical for me personally. We have class struggle today too, God knows. But it's in the details and casting. I liked Becca but she was often too rural or saccharine as written, and Scott was miscast and a plank of wood. If they'd presented a Becca character as more bohemian in her country background but hip it would be a different thing.

When AMC 2.0 did Pete and Celia in the same formula a lot of it was saccharine, but what elevated it was not only Rob Wilson's imperious, darker Pete, basically a scheming techbro tycoon (I know people clown him on DAYS for good reason but he channeled a young James Mitchell at times), and the possibility of Cassandra entering his orbit at the end, but also the creepy gothic mystery behind Celia at the core. Meanwhile both Miranda and A.J. were well cast and more compelling in their deep friendship and potential romance, even if the show had planned to pivot AJ. to coming out as gay. Again, it's a question of elements.

I do remember that the show did sort of tone down the country bumpkin vibe with Becca after awhile.. and I think Abigail managed to put a bit of edge into her line readings as Becca. Becca/Greenlee/Leo was loads more interesting then the later Laura/Greenlee/Leo.

In terms of Celia... god she was insipid. I remember on message boards and forums back in the day that people compared her to Tara Martin and the old school AMC fans weren't having that LOL My late mom always said that the actress that played Celia reminded her of Gillian and having her be tied to Dimitri would have made sense since Dimitri did come back acting super European and I could buy Dimitri keeping someone that had trauma sheltered (Angelique for one). And I would have made Celia a young adult.. perhaps a new teacher at Pine Valley High so that she could have an organic way of interacting with Miranda, AJ, etc and she still would have been sheltered and unsure of herself. Think of her like a Duggar (was raised in a cult of sorts)

Edited 4 hours ago4 hr by Soaplovers

Personally, I cringe at the idea of Carlivati being associated with any soap franchise I have ever cared about; I have loathed his low-brow, campy and sophomoric style at every series he has touched.

I know SONers who would produce a more literate and erudite soap.