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AMC and OLTL Canceled!

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Even if the rumors are true, and either AMC or OLTL (or both) is moving to NBC, the history of soaps moving from one network to another is not good. SEARCH FOR TOMORROW's ratings and viewership were virtually cut in half when it moved from CBS to NBC; and EDGE OF NIGHT never benefitted from ABC's decision to move it back to the 4 pm slot, as an overwhelming number of affiliates refused to air it then.

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Even if the rumors are true, and either AMC or OLTL (or both) is moving to NBC, the history of soaps moving from one network to another is not good. SEARCH FOR TOMORROW's ratings and viewership were virtually cut in half when it moved from CBS to NBC; and EDGE OF NIGHT never benefitted from ABC's decision to move it back to the 4 pm slot, as an overwhelming number of affiliates refused to air it then.

Very true. I rarely post and I hate to squash hopes on the rare occasions that I do, but I don't see AMC or OLTL going anywhere. The EON and SFT moves were in a different era -- ratings were higher and I have to think that even with recent budget cuts, production was cheaper. I doubt things really got expensive until the 1980s when excess was the order of the day everywhere. Even if Sony were to buy them, NBC still has to pony up money and airing expensive shows hovering around a 1 rating in the demos isn't a smart move financially for them. As so many have pointed out throughout this thread, it all comes down to money. They simply cost too much in exchange for the ratings they get. One of the more reputable stories I read in all of this is that AMC and OLTL cost between $750K and $1M a week. The replacement shows are probably going to cost half of that and ratings aren't going to be that much lower because there isn't much more room to fall. I don't know how much difference advertisers spend for a 1.0 v. 0.7 rating in the demos. I really think daytime is going to go the way of Saturday prime time -- just a bunch of cheap programs and reruns so that the networks can cut costs.

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I really think daytime is going to go the way of Saturday prime time -- just a bunch of cheap programs and reruns so that the networks can cut costs.

ICAM.

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Sadly I think that's exactly the way the networks want it. It's all about the cheapest cost. They aren't making any effort in daytime anymore. Or anywhere, really.

Is it true that ABC tried to buy EON from P&G but P&G said no?

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Is this seriously what you people have been doing with your time for days?

Okay, here's the deal as I see it.

1. Jamey Giddens, while sometimes very insightful, is also a little nuts, and embarrasses himself regularly. At least 60-70% of what he says about OLTL or its condition on any given day is bullshit because he's only watched the show since 2004, and he is so into the stream of hype that he excuses a lot of crap on the show, even during times when there are good stories amidst crap ones. (And that includes right now.) His attacks on AMC are also hyperbolic and over the top.

2. AMC was moved, and its LA exodus was heavily promoted as "a new beginning" - there is no denying this - with the intent to save it and its brand while consigning OLTL to New York oblivion. This did not work out because AMC's producer was an incompetent who could not manage the show properly. That is not AMC's fault, it is Julie Hanan Carruthers' fault. It is not a reflection on AMC as a show.

3. OLTL was the redheaded stepchild, yes. But who cares? They're both cancelled. A few piddling online websites and message boards - including both DC and this one - mean absolutely fuckin' nothing anymore. I honestly could not give a [!@#$%^&*] about how many people preferred OLTL over AMC or vice versa how many times in one given week, in what way and with what platform. The bottom line is these are both great soaps that are both cancelled. Gnatfucking each other over time, date, percentage point, viewer share and blog post is the height of idiocy and it only makes everyone look petty.

Get over this [!@#$%^&*]. Seriously.

I fluckin LOVE this post!!!

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rickygoldin Ricky Paull Goldin

I'm going to find out if there is any truth to SONY buying AMC. Personally, I think its a long shot!

If Ricky wasn't able to find out whether the show was canceled, I'm certain he won't be able to find out if Sony is buying All My Children. :lol:

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Disgusting. SOD is now asking which OLTL couple should end the show happy and together. The overwhelming majority is Natalie and John with 41%. The next closest is Clint and Viki at 19%. James and Starr come in last with 5%

http://www.soapoperadigest.com/node

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rickygoldin Ricky Paull Goldin

I'm going to find out if there is any truth to SONY buying AMC. Personally, I think its a long shot!

If Ricky wasn't able to find out whether the show was canceled, I'm certain he won't be able to find out if Sony is buying All My Children. :lol:

I love these actors but they need to stop tweeting about this stuff. They are at the bottom of the food chain. This is the business of business. It's a whole different level. There's an old Hindu(?) saying, "When the elephants fight, it's the grass that gets hurt." Guess which one you are in this, Ricky. Just keep your head down, don't cause trouble and cash the checks.

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Gone Too Soon? 'One Life To Live' Grows In Ratings Post-Cancellation

"Compared to last week, OLTL was up by 263,000 viewers and vs. the same week last year, it was up by a whopping 507,000 viewers. For comparison, with the exception of AMC, which was up by 53,000, all other dramas were down year-to-year. OLTL was also No.3 in the key Women 18-49 demographic with 690,000 viewers, ahead of Days, The Bold & the Beautiful and AMC. OLTL was the only soap to post growth both vs. last week (+22,000) and last year (+62,000 viewers).

Second thoughts, ABC?"

Deadline Hollywood

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The actors are the last to know anything. I highly doubt any actor without any real clout could find out.

We won't know anything until Sony or ABC say anything.

But, all the bad press ABC is getting, you just know they'll spin it and say "see we sold them so stop hating us".

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Seriously, what is there not to get, ABC WANTS OUT OF THE SOAP BUSINESS and ratings be damned :rolleyes::rolleyes:

And NO I do not think Sony wants or will purchase AMV or OLTL :wacko:

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