For all the people hoping it's Frankie's baby I just want to ask, what network are YOU watching this show on? Because I'm watching it on ABC and that's just not going to happen. I really would like to subscribe to the special feed of AMC where Frankie Hubbard is something other than a backburnered dayplayer.

LOL! Unfortunately, true. AMC is predictably tedious.

The Cara stuff sounds good. I can't wait to see LH on the show. I hope AMC has no plans to hook Cara and Jake back up. Also hope that Cara doesn't just interact with Jake, Amanda, & Griffin. I could see LH mixing it up with the rest of the cast as well so I'm crossing my fingers that's what'll happen.

My only hope for this Madison storyline is that she's really pregnant with Frankie's child. I'm going to pay close attention to Frankie in his scenes with Madison in the coming weeks....here's hoping something else went on the night of Caleb's party, & Madison was to drunk to remember. But Frankie does and he's keeping it a secret. The fact that Madison and Randi bond over this a little bit, and Randi's miscarriage is mentioned during all of it, gives me a little hope....it would be perfect if Madison was having Frankie's baby. Randi would just not have it! She lost his child and now Madison is having it. lol that would just be awesome to watch...

I'm really looking forward to LH on AMC too! Really looking forward to her scenes with Griffin and Jake. Amanda has annoyed me a lot lately, so I wouldn't mind if Cara tried to get Jake back. Amanda and Jake just don't interest me at all anymore.

THIS! I definitely agree!

PLEASE, GOD - Let that baby's dad be Frankie!

AMEN to that!

Edited December 3, 201015 yr by DCY

For me, the sad part is that AMC chooses to play Madison's pregnancy like a weepy Bette Davis melodrama from the 1940's. Sure, the fact that Ryan possibly has another baby "on the outside" is bound to affect his and Greens' relationship in some way; however, if neither Spike's nor Emma's existence is keeping these two apart, why should Madison's baby-to-be? Her whole I-will-suffer-in-silence routine is just so cliched and unnecessary.

3 kids from 3 different women. How is this guy a role model for anyone?

He isn't. When you get right down to it, Ryan Lavery is like every other male guest on "Maury," but with more well-defined abs.

Edited December 3, 201015 yr by Khan

3 kids from 3 different women. How is this guy a role model for anyone?

Uh, name me one character on any soap that is.

Exactly.

Edited December 3, 201015 yr by DAYSfreak1987

There was a time, though, when you did have soap characters w/ morals and/or conscience. When men like Ryan Lavery didn't have several babies by several different women. So, if anything, Ryan is indicative of what has happened on daytime as a whole.

When you get right down to it, Ryan Lavery is like every other male guest on "Maury," but with more well-defined abs.

And better clothes and teeth.

lol

Edited December 3, 201015 yr by Pine Charles

There was a time, though, when you did have soap characters w/ morals and/or conscience. When men like Ryan Lavery didn't have several babies by several different women. So, if anything, Ryan is indicative of what has happened on daytime as a whole.

True. It seems every soap character nowadays lacks a conscience. I think the point here, though, is that Frons the writers have almost every character act as though Ryan is a Saint, God, SUPERHERO! It's like no character can talk smack about what a douche he is.... besides David (a.k.a. Satan).

There was a time, though, when you did have soap characters w/ morals and/or conscience. When men like Ryan Lavery didn't have several babies by several different women. So, if anything, Ryan is indicative of what has happened on daytime as a whole.

Yup. If daytime wasn't infected with Baby Rabies we wouldn't have all these kids running around. It's like they only know how to write baby drama. Frankly, I'm sick of All These Children. Emma, AJ, Kathy, Jenny, Miranda, Gabby, Spike, Ian, etc... and now both Angie and Madison are knocked up. Half the conversations on the show are about these kids and Opal seems to have nothing better to do than babysit everyone's plot point brat while they hook up to make more plot point brats. They should change the name of this show to All These Hillbillies.

Cara shows up, i tune out. Bummer too cuz ive been really liking AMC

ICAM, Pine Charles! Having characters regard other characters highly does not work when their actions almost always say otherwise.

It's like they only know how to write baby drama.

But you've heard the writers' excuse, right? That they'd love to write other kinds of stories, but their bosses at the network(s) won't let them get too "controversial"?

Yeah, I don't buy that either.

But you've heard the writers' excuse, right? That they'd love to write other kinds of stories, but their bosses at the network(s) won't let them get too "controversial"?

Yeah, I don't buy that either.

So women who know how to use contraception is controversial? I'd give anything for these writers to do a Comic-con style panel where they had to answer questions from the fans. What cowards they are.

Edited December 3, 201015 yr by marceline

So women who know how to use contraception is controversial?

Yes, because the pro-lifers / anti-birth control-ers would pitch a bitch. And as we all know, those are the ones solely keeping these shows on the air. [/sarcasm]

I worry there's another child on the way too: Jake and Cara's.

I read an interview with LH last week where she said that some secrets come out early on when Cara hits town but that the big secret won't be revealed until until much later.

Given how predictable and uncreative D&D are, I can't help but think that big secret is a kid.

Yup. If daytime wasn't infected with Baby Rabies we wouldn't have all these kids running around. It's like they only know how to write baby drama. Frankly, I'm sick of All These Children. Emma, AJ, Kathy, Jenny, Miranda, Gabby, Spike, Ian, etc... and now both Angie and Madison are knocked up. Half the conversations on the show are about these kids and Opal seems to have nothing better to do than babysit everyone's plot point brat while they hook up to make more plot point brats. They should change the name of this show to All These Hillbillies.

As the age of people having their first child seems to get a little higher than in years past, soaps do not reflect this reality at all. Is there any character that has been on a soap for at least ten years that does not have a child? (Besides Greenlee I guess)

Edited December 4, 201015 yr by ER Tosh

So women who know how to use contraception is controversial? I'd give anything for these writers to do a Comic-con style panel where they had to answer questions from the fans. What cowards they are.

Now this I would love. The Soap industry seems to be one of the rare forms of entertainment that still gets to "hide" from it's fans.