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27 minutes ago, Soaplovers said:

2006 was with Latham and Alden as co head writers.  Shame it didn't last because Latham had interesting ideas and Alden had the history and soap opera writing experience to make those ideas work.

The first half of 2006 was pretty solid work and the show felt like it was getting refocused again. There were some great moments like Neil finding out the truth about Lily’s paternity, Victoria/JT one night stand, Sharon’s famous confrontation with Nick In Phyllis’s lingerie, and the initial tainted face cream story was pretty juicy. 
 

Then came along Brad’s past and Victor’s mystical epilepsy complete with lousy Hope recast (wasn’t it the lady who played Tracy McKay on Dallas lol?). That along with Jack becoming the devil incarnate the show quickly went off the rails by late summer. 

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3 hours ago, soapfan770 said:

The first half of 2006 was pretty solid work and the show felt like it was getting refocused again. There were some great moments like Neil finding out the truth about Lily’s paternity, Victoria/JT one night stand, Sharon’s famous confrontation with Nick In Phyllis’s lingerie, and the initial tainted face cream story was pretty juicy. 
 

Then came along Brad’s past and Victor’s mystical epilepsy complete with lousy Hope recast (wasn’t it the lady who played Tracy McKay on Dallas lol?). That along with Jack becoming the devil incarnate the show quickly went off the rails by late summer. 

Was "Out of Ashes" in November 2006? Which we all called "out of their asses" which played out on a carpark for two weeks, allegedly cost a huge amount of money but looked and felt sooo cheap and pointless on screen. All I remember of it now is Jeanne Cooper walking around in a dusted face.

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11 hours ago, sheilaforever said:

Was "Out of Ashes" in November 2006? Which we all called "out of their asses" which played out on a carpark for two weeks, allegedly cost a huge amount of money but looked and felt sooo cheap and pointless on screen. All I remember of it now is Jeanne Cooper walking around in a dusted face.

Out of the Ashes was 2007, which is of Y&R’s worst years ever. 2006 did have the ice storm event in which Carmen was murdered and Summer was born in the elevator. 

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Hey everyone! Just giving you a heads up that the Vault is currently full. I'll do my best to come up with a quick/temporary solution to clear up space over the next 2-3 days, and maybe a more permanent solution in the next few weeks (I'm thinking of maybe splitting Y&R and B&B into separate vaults). I'll give everyone a heads up when it's ok to start uploading again.

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Thanks for the update, @ChickenNuggetz92! And most importantly, thanks for maintaining the vault altogether; I don't post here that often, but I'm in the middle of deep dive from 2010 thanks to the vault and I'm really enjoying it. I greatly appreciate the time and trouble it takes to maintain it!

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On 8/26/2021 at 12:30 AM, sheilaforever said:

Was "Out of Ashes" in November 2006? Which we all called "out of their asses" which played out on a carpark for two weeks, allegedly cost a huge amount of money but looked and felt sooo cheap and pointless on screen. All I remember of it now is Jeanne Cooper walking around in a dusted face.

 

On 8/25/2021 at 9:10 PM, soapfan770 said:

The first half of 2006 was pretty solid work and the show felt like it was getting refocused again. There were some great moments like Neil finding out the truth about Lily’s paternity, Victoria/JT one night stand, Sharon’s famous confrontation with Nick In Phyllis’s lingerie, and the initial tainted face cream story was pretty juicy. 
 

Then came along Brad’s past and Victor’s mystical epilepsy complete with lousy Hope recast (wasn’t it the lady who played Tracy McKay on Dallas lol?). That along with Jack becoming the devil incarnate the show quickly went off the rails by late summer. 

1) What was "Out of Ashes"

2) what is this about Victor's epilepsy?

3) And what about Jack! Please tell me he didn't actually become the devil LOL

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33 minutes ago, kalbir said:

Thankfully we were spared 2007 during the classics last year.

LOL I remember either you or someone else mentioned that fact during the classics thread to which I am glad that nothing from that year was aired at all as well. Probably the worst stuff I remember airing was a post-volcano episode (but it was supposed to be about Kevin and Chloe LMAO) and some crappy 2012 episode where Sharon and Nikki fought in the barn which I forgave because MAB was fired around the time the episode aired. 

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2 hours ago, allmc2008 said:

 

1) What was "Out of Ashes"

2) what is this about Victor's epilepsy?

3) And what about Jack! Please tell me he didn't actually become the devil LOL

Ehh thankfully 2007 was a blip in my memory but if it recalls:

1) "Out of the Ashes" was a huge sweeps marketing event surrounding the explosion of a retreat (Clear Springs by NVP Retreats, a partnership with Nikki, Victor, and Phyllis. It veered on GH Guza-era camp (and poorly done at that) which had no place in Y&R. All I remember is Nikki losing it over Victoria's ugly handbag. She was pregnant with JT's baby and went into a coma because she got hit on the head by a foam brick lmao.

2) Nikki was in a parking lot and was about to get robbed at gunpoint. Victor came in and did a few headbutts on the culprit but shortly after started experiencing extreme personality changes (being unusually mellow, giving Jack favours at Newman, and making paper snowflakes and hiding them in his desk). One day he started hallucinating and attacked Nikki but she was able to calm him through it, and at that point found out he had epilepsy. Not sure how they resolved that one.

3) Mmm wasn't much paying attention to this storyline but on top of taking advantage of Victor's epilepsy, he and Nikki of all people were running opposite each other for state senate (yes, you heard that right) and he was doing really shady things to get ahead.

Aside from the above, 2007 Y&R also gave us:

  • Pheila (more on the tail end of 2006)
  • The infamous reliquary storyline which Joshua Morrow never fails to sh!t on.
  • Dru falling off the cliff
  • Phyllis faking a back injury and staying at the Abbott house with Jack and Sharon to avoid prison time for perjury (not sure how she got out of that)
  • Sharon and Jack
  • Bratty Noah
  • Horrible MTV style background music
  • Kevin and Colleen getting locked in a freezer by Jana and saving her life
  • Cane Ashby
  • Lily and Amber rivalry over Daniel (the writing for Amber really bugged me on Y&R as I found her characterization super campy in comparison her first run on B&B)
  • Daniel's pr0n addiction
  • Extreme Catwalk
  • Victor and Sabrina?
  • Niktor breakup and David Chow (which I thought was a strange name for a character played by Vincent Irizarry)
  • Ji-Min and whatever storyline he had - but he was very good with Jill

 

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33 minutes ago, ChickenNuggetz92 said:

Ehh thankfully 2007 was a blip in my memory but if it recalls:

1) "Out of the Ashes" was a huge sweeps marketing event surrounding the explosion of a retreat (Clear Springs by NVP Retreats, a partnership with Nikki, Victor, and Phyllis. It veered on GH Guza-era camp (and poorly done at that) which had no place in Y&R. All I remember is Nikki losing it over Victoria's ugly handbag. She was pregnant with JT's baby and went into a coma because she got hit on the head by a foam brick lmao.

2) Nikki was in a parking lot and was about to get robbed at gunpoint. Victor came in and did a few headbutts on the culprit but shortly after started experiencing extreme personality changes (being unusually mellow, giving Jack favours at Newman, and making paper snowflakes and hiding them in his desk). One day he started hallucinating and attacked Nikki but she was able to calm him through it, and at that point found out he had epilepsy. Not sure how they resolved that one.

3) Mmm wasn't much paying attention to this storyline but on top of taking advantage of Victor's epilepsy, he and Nikki of all people were running opposite each other for state senate (yes, you heard that right) and he was doing really shady things to get ahead.

Aside from the above, 2007 Y&R also gave us:

  • Pheila (more on the tail end of 2006)
  • The infamous reliquary storyline which Joshua Morrow never fails to sh!t on.
  • Dru falling off the cliff
  • Phyllis faking a back injury and staying at the Abbott house with Jack and Sharon to avoid prison time for perjury (not sure how she got out of that)
  • Sharon and Jack
  • Bratty Noah
  • Horrible MTV style background music
  • Kevin and Colleen getting locked in a freezer by Jana and saving her life
  • Cane Ashby
  • Lily and Amber rivalry over Daniel (the writing for Amber really bugged me on Y&R as I found her characterization super campy in comparison her first run on B&B)
  • Daniel's pr0n addiction
  • Extreme Catwalk
  • Victor and Sabrina?
  • Niktor breakup and David Chow (which I thought was a strange name for a character played by Vincent Irizarry)
  • Ji-Min and whatever storyline he had - but he was very good with Jill

 

Ah, the memories. Victor and Sabrina was MAB, I think and started very quickyl when LML was hunted off the premises. 

 

EDIT: Was Australian-Colleen and Professor Whatshisname (Adrian Korbel? Was he killed?) also in 2007?

I can remember most of these stories but nothing how it played out onscreen because it was all soo sad and squandered (due to bad editing, awful music and some nonsensual twists). I'll give LML credit for actually doing PSA stories which were current. That said, the one scene I vividly remember from 2007 besides Dru's fall into bad CGI.

Lily: "Oh my god Daniel. This is paaaaaaaawrn, Daniel. Oh my god, paaaaaawrn. You are addicted to paaaaaaaawrn, Daniel!"

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12 hours ago, soapfan770 said:

LOL I remember either you or someone else mentioned that fact during the classics thread to which I am glad that nothing from that year was aired at all as well. Probably the worst stuff I remember airing was a post-volcano episode (but it was supposed to be about Kevin and Chloe LMAO) and some crappy 2012 episode where Sharon and Nikki fought in the barn which I forgave because MAB was fired around the time the episode aired. 

2006 onward are not classics. Y&R hasn't been the same since John Abbott's death.

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50 minutes ago, kalbir said:

2006 onward are not classics. Y&R hasn't been the same since John Abbott's death.

LOL it’s so weird looking back now. Fifteen years in say 1998 was 1983 and people were all about seeing the good old days. Now here in 2021 15 years ago is 2006 and no one wants to see that crap again.

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1 hour ago, soapfan770 said:

LOL it’s so weird looking back now. Fifteen years in say 1998 was 1983 and people were all about seeing the good old days. Now here in 2021 15 years ago is 2006 and no one wants to see that crap again.

I bet people in 1993-1994 were probably missing 1978-1979 (If we are going back 15 years) and considering them more classic years. What's funny is that while I want to see more 1994, I can see why people back then would probably be turned off because of the whole Nick/Sharon/Amy/Matt thing dominating and taking over the show, yet now we realize how good we had it back then, even if we didn't always like what was on screen. I guess that can be said for most of Late 1994-1997 Y&R anyways. 

 

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17 minutes ago, YRfan23 said:

I bet people in 1993-1994 were probably missing 1978-1979 (If we are going back 15 years) and considering them more classic years. What's funny is that while I want to see more 1994, I can see why people back then would probably be turned off because of the whole Nick/Sharon/Amy/Matt thing dominating and taking over the show, yet now we realize how good we had it back then, even if we didn't always like what was on screen. I guess that can be said for most of Late 1994-1997 Y&R anyways. 

 

Looking through the old Usenet/Google posts, the people in the early 90s definitely considered the stuff from 10 years before (like Victor and Nikki's early years) as "ancient history"/"good old days" which is interesting cause right now I consider anything from 2010 "very recent." But there was not as much info on the internet then and no clips so I guess as you watched it you kind of forgot the details unless you read about them in a magazine. And if you went on vacation or something during a big story, you just missed it. 

 

I feel like people are too hard on the 90s Nick/Sharon stuff. Once they sorted out the recasts, it was a solid, classic Bill Bell good vs. evil story with the suffering heroine. It has almost a Chris and Snapper vibe where your hero and heroine are basically good people who stay together for a long time and deal with some of the same issues (rape, long lost child), and there was the class element, and the disability element with Sharon's mother. I agree with most here that Joshua Morrow was miscast as Victor's heir, and isn't a strong actor, but it did work out with Nick being more like his mother and that fueling some of the issues between Victor and Nick.

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