They said they tied. Read the whole thing.

Please do us all a favor and either learn to read or refrain from proving that old adage "better to let someone think you're a fool than open your mouth (or in this case, type) and remove all doubt" (paraphrasing).

I specifically said "THE ABC PRESS RELEASE HEADLINE...". Maybe you should read my WHOLE post. Most people just skim articles and just rely on the headline.

Of course, this doesn't fit into your little pro-OLTL argument now does it?

By the way, I forgot to ask you...do you think ABC is ecstatic that it's making less money with a 42 year old show than CBS is with one that hasn't been one month?

Now ur insulting me because Im a OLTL fan.

Do u even work for CBS? Otherwise u dont know anything just like I dont.

Why do I need to work for CBS? Just because I can read and comprehend things? It doesn't take a genius - hell, I bet even Sarah Palin can grasp it - that a series making money for a network is going to last longer than one that doesn't.

However, we can agree that you don't know anything.

Please do us all a favor and either learn to read or refrain from proving that old adage "better to let someone think you're a fool than open your mouth (or in this case, type) and remove all doubt" (paraphrasing).

I specifically said "THE ABC PRESS RELEASE HEADLINE...". Maybe you should read my WHOLE post. Most people just skim articles and just rely on the headline.

Of course, this doesn't fit into your little pro-OLTL argument now does it?

By the way, I forgot to ask you...do you think ABC is ecstatic that it's making less money with a 42 year old show than CBS is with one that hasn't been one month?

From what I hear, OLTL is the only ABC soap thats financially stable. AMC and GH are overbudget. At least GH has decent demos unlike AMC thats sinking during sweeps.

I'm more interested in why CBS isn't doing press releases for The Talk now. Have they? If so, it was for the best. Bragging about numbers against a 42 year old show seemed odd to me -- perhaps someone at CBS agreed.

Why do I need to work for CBS? Just because I can read and comprehend things? It doesn't take a genius - hell, I bet even Sarah Palin can grasp it - that a series making money for a network is going to last longer than one that doesn't.

However, we can agree that you don't know anything.

I know the Talk is cheaper to produce. Im not a moron. The question is how much cheaper. OLTL did 40% better in the key demo. Thats a big increase IMO.

Why do I need to work for CBS? Just because I can read and comprehend things? It doesn't take a genius - hell, I bet even Sarah Palin can grasp it - that a series making money for a network is going to last longer than one that doesn't.

Do you seriously think CBS is all giddy about The Talk's dismal ratings?

From what I hear, OLTL is the only ABC soap thats financially stable. AMC and GH are overbudget. At least GH has decent demos unlike AMC thats sinking during sweeps.

Yet, GH, that over-budget soap routinely mops the floor with OLTL in every conceivable category except men.

Who are these people you are hearing this from? Frank Valentini?

The ABC soaps cant even have nice gains for sweeps even though none of them were prepared IMO. AMC only had 536,000 viewers in the key demo. Thats pretty bad. The year to year declines are going to be brutal.

Everyone here says Y&R sucks but its the only soap to have a decent gain so far for sweeps.

Y&R spends 24/7 doing stunts to try to raise ratings, and constantly hires a parade of has beens to try to raise ratings. To do all this just to break even with numbers that were seen as a disaster only 2 years ago isn't great.

Also, the ABC press release headline:

ABC is Daytime’s No. 1 Network Among Women 18-49

should come with an asterisk attached.

ABC only TIED with NBC, and actually TRAILED NBC in actual women 18-49 viewer totals (721,000 vs. 707,000), so it would appear that ABC is trying to put its thumb on the scale - tipping it in their favor by proclaiming to be #1 - and cross its fingers that people are too stupid to know what the truth really is, which is that ABC is NOT Daytime's No. 1 Network Among Women 18-49.

NBC's daytime average is based on one show, DAYS, whereas ABC's daytime average is based on four shows, OLTL, GH, The View, and AMC. It's kind of ludicrous to even be comparing them in press releases based on that fact.

Do you seriously think CBS is all giddy about The Talk's dismal ratings?

If they are not doing press releases, apparently not.

Are they?

If they are not doing press releases, apparently not.

Are they?

Doesn't seem like it to me.

I know the Talk is cheaper to produce. Im not a moron. The question is how much cheaper. OLTL did 40% better in the key demo. Thats a big increase IMO.

Well, genius, OLTL has a larger behind the scenes crew, has to occupy a larger studio for all of those sets it needs and has around 20 CONTRACT roles. Compare that to "The Talk", and you actually think it is anywhere near OLTL in terms of budget or profitability. "The Talk" could lose half of its audience and still be making more money for its network than OLTL would.

You may not be a moron, but you're one hell of a terrible speller.

Yet, GH, that over-budget soap routinely mops the floor with OLTL in every conceivable category except men.

Who are these people you are hearing this from? Frank Valentini?

Im sure Maurice and Steve being on everyday aint cheap plus all the stunt casting. James Franco?

Hes not the only one. Its been reported on several websites and even some actors and actresses from the show have said the same thing. So theyre all liars?

Why u being mean about this?

"The Talk" could lose half of its audience and still be making more money for its network than OLTL would.

Not exactly a great showing for a new program -- who cares, we're still cheaper than someone else. If that was all CBS wanted they would have put reruns in the slot.

Im sure Maurice and Steve being on everyday aint cheap plus all the stunt casting. James Franco?

Hes not the only one. Its been reported on several websites and even some actors and actresses from the show have said the same thing. So theyre all liars?

Why u being mean about this?

Does anything you just said negate the fact that GH easily defeats OLTL in every single reported category except male viewers? I'll make it easy for you...the answer is "no".

You are kidding yourself if you think ABC is going to get rid of GH - no matter how over-budget it may be - before it turns off the lights at OLTL or AMC.