As The World Turns Discussion Thread

[John]

The thing is Im sure JM woul d have done the full episode but im sure Goutman's ego got in the way 

I would have loved to see her the episode prior where they found out Kim & Bob werent legally married. I would have loved some Frannie/Chris scenes. They were close when he was a kid

 

Regardless I loved her apperance

Edited June 23, 2018 by John

[P.J.]

 

 

Well....in MY defense, I never blamed the entirety of ATWT's problems on Conn or Katie. Sheffer was a one trick pony, Howarth and Block were horrible recasts that shifted the already long established personalities of their characters, Goutman seemed determined to employ every fired ABC actor he could get his hands on, and on and on. I'm sure at one time, I bitched about them all. If I bitched longer (and probably louder) about Conn/Katie than Block, Howarth, SJB or Pinson, its because like a cockroach....she endured. 

 

Hal's mother had died. All he had left was his father and his sister Claire. I think Claire did again appear briefly, but I don't think his father ever did.

[JarrodMFiresofLove]

 

How do we find the complete lists for the episode counts? Are they posted anywhere? I'm curious to see how many episodes the veteran cast (Bob, Kim, Lisa, Nancy, Lucinda) received in the last decade.

 

Edited June 23, 2018 by JarrodMFiresofLove

[dragonflies]

The show literally revolved around Katie, even Nancy's death was about her, even Chris being sick was about her and so on

[All My Shadows]

 

There's a section here for Episode Counts if you scroll all the way down on the main forum page. Here are the counts for the last month and year the show was on the air, plus a complete count for 1997-2010.

 

I'm sorry, but this is just nonsense. Jack and Carly appeared in more than half of all episodes over thirteen years. They're the only two. If you picked a random episode from that time period, the odds are high that you will see one or both of them. If the show revolved around any character(s), it's them, but I think people fail to realize that ATWT was a more balanced show than most of its contemporaries in it last few years on the air. To say that certain characters had a larger presence than they should have is an understatement, but to say that certain characters were at the center of the show when the statistics prove otherwise is just negligent. The numbers do not lie, and anyone watching every day back then knows that you saw Jack and Carly way more frequently than you saw Katie.

[slick jones]

While Katie had clunkers in some of her storylines, she also had some good ones. Considering how little Goutman used Nancy, I was glad whenever she had scenes.I liked Nancy and Katie's friendship. I wish someone on the canvas was used with Lisa so EF could have been on more. JMO.

[JarrodMFiresofLove]

 

Thanks for the link. I spotted some errors. Trent Dawson's character is listed as Holden instead of Henry. Also Ellen Dolan's total count from 97-10 is in the wrong spot; a few beneath her have more episodes. Is there a way for the original poster of the thread to fix it?

 

I was shocked at Eileen Fulton barely appearing in the final year. She was averaging about one episode a month. She must have really fallen out of favor with Goutman and the writers. Her total count from 97-10 is in the 500 range but I think a lot of that came from her last big storyline (where Lisa married Eduardo Grimaldi) in the late 90s. She was very vocal about Hogan Sheffer not writing for her and I don't think Passanante wrote for her either. So the last decade Lisa was pretty much sidelined.

Edited June 23, 2018 by JarrodMFiresofLove

[Soapsuds]

So is Eric doing the Macrena here?

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[DramatistDreamer]

 

He's done a lot more TV than theater.   His last theater credit is in 2007. 

Eric Sheffer Stevens

[vetsoapfan]

 

I found Katie irritating to begin with, but I really grew to resent her more and more as so much attention was paid to her while many of the beloved vets languished in the background or disappeared. I would say the misuse and poor execution of the character were thanks to the incompetent PTB; Katie, herself was not the entire problem. And I have nothing at all against TC.

 

As you say, there were MANY crimes against nature we had to endure over the last ten years. Hammy Howarth shoved down our throats was gag-inducing. The endless and unnecessary recasting of Craig was baffling and destructive. Unwanted newbies like Janet were a waste of space and air-time. The influx of actors from ABC was obvious and a stupid route to take. The list of death blows to ATWT is endless, and extends past Katie alone.

 

OMG, that is so interesting! After so many years on this board, I had never even known about tfhe archived appearances forum. Thank you for pointing it out. 

 

 

Edited June 23, 2018 by vetsoapfan

[vetsoapfan]

Episode Count 1997-2010: 3444 episodes

January 1, 1997-September 17, 2010

 

1. Michael Park (Jack Snyder) – 2023

2. Maura West (Carly Tenney) – 1955

3. Jon Hensley (Holden Snyder) – 1580

4. Ellen Dolan (Margo Hughes) – 1354

5. Kelley Menighan Hensley (Emily Stewart) – 1413

6. Terri Colombino (Katie Peretti Snyder) – 1383

7. Martha Byrne (Lily Walsh) – 1368

8. Colleen Zenk (Barbara Ryan) – 1293

9. Elizabeth Hubbard (Lucinda Walsh) – 1109

10. Lesli Kay (Molly Conlan) – 1060

 

11. Benjamin Hendrickson (Hal Munson) – 1049

12. Roger Howarth (Paul Ryan) – 994

13. Scott Holmes (Tom Hughes) – 934

14. Dusty Donovan (Grayson McCouch) – 917

15. Trent Dawson (Henry Coleman) – 821

16. Hunt Block (Craig Montgomery) – 803

17. Peter Parros (Ben Harris) – 729

18. Kathryn Hays (Kim Hughes) – 693

19. Don Hastings (Bob Hughes) – 682

20. Marie Wilson (Meg Snyder) – 636

21. Mark Collier (Mike Kasnoff) – 610

22. Cady McClain (Rosanna Cabot) – 590

23. Jesse Soffer (Will Munson) – 571

24. Larry Bryggman (John Dixon) – 561

25. Marie Masters (Susan Stewart) – 556

26. Eileen Fulton (Lisa) – 530

27. Agim Kaba (Aaron Snyder) – 523

28. Paul Leyden (Simon Frasier) – 520

29. Jennifer Landon (Gwen Munson) – 502

30. Jennifer Ferrin (Jennifer Munson) – 491

 

31. Martha Byrne (Rose D’Angelo) – 482

* Jessica Dunphy (Alison Stewart) – 482

33. Van Hansis (Luke Snyder)– 431

34. Tamara Tunie (Jessica Griffin) – 418

35. Peyton List (Lucy Montgomery) – 408

36. Annie Parisse (Julia Lindsey) – 405

37. Kathleen Widdoes (Emma Snyder) – 400

38. Anthony Herrera (James Stenbeck) – 375

39. Mick Hazen (Parker Snyder) – 335

40. Austin Peck (Brad Snyder) – 326

 

41. Kristina Sisco (Abigail Williams) – 315

42. Marnie Schulenburg (Alison Stewart) – 307

* Paul Taylor (Isaac Jenkins) – 307

44. Alexandra Chando (Maddie Coleman) – 306

45. Lauren B. Martin (Camille Bennett) – 304

46. Tom Eplin (Jake McKinnon) – 294

47. Zach Roerig (Casey Hughes) – 292

48. Ewa da Cruz (Vienna Hyatt) – 268

49. Noelle Beck (Lily Walsh) – 266

50. Scott DeFreitas (Andy Dixon) – 261

51. Scott Holroyd (Paul Ryan) – 260

52. Julie Pinson (Janet Ciccone) – 258

53. Napiera Danielle (Bonnie McKechnie) – 246

54. Bailey Chase (Chris Hughes) – 245

55. Nathaniel Marston (Eddie Silva) – 236

56. Kim Onasch (Jennifer Munson) – 231

57. Cassandra Creech (Denise Maynard) – 227

* Daniel Markel (David Stenbeck) – 227

59. Helen Wagner (Nancy Hughes) – 222

60. Jake Silbermann (Noah Mayer) – 220

 

61. Jon Lindstrom (Craig Montgomery) – 219

62. Paolo Seganti (Damian Grimaldi) – 202

63. Billy Magnussen (Casey Hughes) – 197

64. Elena Goode (Jade Taylor) – 194

65. Craig Lawlor (Adam Munson) – 194

66. Lamman Rucker (Marshall Travers) – 173

67. Todd Rotondi (Bryant Montgomery) – 164

68. Paul Korver (Chris Hughes) – 163

69. Mary Beth Evans (Sierra Esteban) – 162

70. Meredith Hagner (Liberty Ciccone) – 157

 

71. Jamie Dudney (Georgia Tucker) – 156

72. Keith Coulouris (Reid Hamilton) – 145

73. Sherri Alexander (Samantha Markham) – 140

74. Allie Gorenc (Sage Snyder) – 138

75. Brett Groneman (Will Munson) – 138

76. Anne Sayre (Mitzi Matters) – 136

77. Tom Wiggin (Kirk Anderson) – 133

78. Ashley Marie Greiner (Faith Snyder) – 131

79. Kin Shriner (Keith Morrissey) – 130

80. Jordana Brewster (Nikki Munson) – 118

* Terri Garber (Iris Dumbrowski) – 118

 

82. Chris Beetem (Jordan Sinclair) – 116

83. Daniel Menake (Johnny Donovan) – 114

84. Nick Kokotakis (Brad Snyder) – 109

85. Scott Bryce (Craig Montgomery) – 108

86. Sarah Brown (Julia Larrabee) – 107

87. Justine Cotsonas (Sofie Duran) – 105

88. Christopher Tavani (Luke Snyder) – 102

89. Cole Kachelhoffer (Parker Munson) – 101

90. Real Andrews (Walker Daniels) – 100

* Dylan Bruce (Chris Hughes) – 100

92. Spencer Grammer (Lucy Montgomery) – 96

93. Michael Woods (Alec Wallace) – 94

94. Jeffrey Meek (Craig Montgomery) – 92

95. Dylan Denton (J.J. Larrabee) – 90

* Stephen Schnetzer (Cass Winthrop) – 90

97. Daniel Manche (J.J. Snyder) – 89

98. Giovani Cimmino (Parker Snyder) – 87

99. Chaunteé Schuler (Bonnie McKechnie) – 82

100. John James (Ric Decker) – 81

 

101. Jake Weary (Luke Snyder) – 78

102. Cassidy Hinkle (Faith Snyder) – 74

* Joanna Rhineheart (Jessica Griffin) – 74

104. Hunter Garner (Billy Ross) – 72

* Jordan Woolley (Nick Kasnoff) – 72

106. Alyssa Diaz (Celia Ortega) – 71

107. Jeremy Ian Zelig (Luke Snyder) – 69

108. Joanna HartsHorne (Sarah Travers) – 68

109. Bailey Harkins (Johnny Donovan) – 64

* Alexander Walters (Mark Kasnoff) – 64

 

111. Rebecca Anderson (Hope Dixon) – 60

* Keara Dolan & Eliza Ryan (Faith Snyder) – 60

113. Randolph Mantooth (Hal Munson) – 59

114. Jon Prescott (Mike Kasnoff) – 58

115. Eric Sheffer Stevens (Reid Oliver) – 57

116. Susan Batten (Connor Walsh) – 56

* Carl T. Evans (Nick Scudder) – 56

* Patrick Tovatt (Cal Stricklyn) – 56

119. McKenzie Satterthwaite (Nikki Munson) – 53

120. Ellery Capshaw (Natalie Snyder) – 51

* Monti Sharp (Lew McCloud) – 51

 

122. Daniel Cosgrove (Chris Hughes) – 50

* Vanessa Ray (Teri Ciccone) – 50

124. A.J. Lamas (Rafe Ortega) – 49

125. Guenia Lemos (Ruby Frank) – 48

* DJ Lockhart (Doc Reese) – 48

* Saundra McClain (Sarah Ruth Bennett) – 48

* Duane McLaughlin (Dallas Griffin) – 48

129. Ernest Waddell (Curtis Harris) – 47

* Virginia Williams (Brandy Taylor) – 47

 

131. Barbara Garrick (Rita Renfield) – 46

132. Tony Musnate (Joe D’Angelo) – 45

133. Danielle Alonso (Pilar Domingo) – 43

* John Loprieno (Brad Snyder) – 43

* Camryn Rose (Sage Snyder) – 43

136. Joseph Cross (Casey Hughes) – 42

137. Karl Girolamo (Kevin Davis) – 41

* Traci Godfrey (Elaine Schiller) – 41

139. Valentina de Angelis (Faith Snyder) – 40

* Brian Gaskill (B.J. Green) – 40

* Ben Levin (Gabriel Caras) – 40

* Wolé Parks (Dallas Griffin) – 40

* Chris Tardio (Dominic Ramsey) – 40

 

144. Matt Cavenaugh (Adam Munson) – 39

* Sarah Glendening (Lucy Montgomery) – 39

* Chris Heuisler (Cole Norbeck) – 39

* Jennifer Landon (Cleo Babbitt) – 39

* Aidan Wagner (Cabot Sinclair) – 39

* Sarah Wilson (Liberty Ciccone) – 39

150. Dylan Bluestone (Daniel Hughes) – 38

* Alex Charak (Elwood Hoffman) – 38

 

152. Justin Weiss (Parker Munson) – 37

153. Kristen Connolly (Josie Anderson) – 36

* Bronson Picket (Diego Santana) – 36

* Chad Tucker (Curtis Harris) – 36

* Lauretta Vaughn (Kit Fowler) – 36

* Davida Williams (Jade Taylor) – 36

158. Roselyn Sanchez (Pilar Domingo) – 35

159. David Allen (Chris Browning) – 34

160. Shawn Christian (Mike Kasnoff) – 33

* Mariah D’Aprile (Hope Dixon) – 33

* Colleen Dion (Dahlia Ventura) – 33

* Ben Jorgenson (Chris Hughes) – 33

 

164. Benton Greene (Derek Coburn) – 32

* Lea Salonga (Lien Hughes) – 32

166. Daniel Hugh Kelley (Winston Mayer) – 31

* Michael Lowry (Les Sweeney) – 31

* Eric William Morris (Matt O’Connor) – 31

169. Ritchie Coster (Gabriel Frank) – 30

170. Tom Pelphrey (Mick Dante) – 29

171. Lisa Brown (Iva Snyder) – 28

* Evan Alex Cole (Hunter McDermott) – 28

 

173. Tala Ashe (Ameera Ali Aziz) – 27

* Tom Degnan (Adam Munson) – 27

* Lucas Kelly (Cabot Montgomery) – 27

* Laurence Lau (Brian Wheatley) – 27

177. Jensen Buchanan (Vicky McKinnon) – 26

* Lynn Herring (Audrey Coleman) – 26

179. Wally Kurth (Sam Hutchins) – 25

* Makayla Leigh (Natalie Snyder) – 25

* Valerie Perrine (Dolores Pierce) – 25

 

182. Lonette McKee (Sarah Ruth Bennett) – 24

* Cruise Russo (Casey Hughes) – 24

* Peter Vack (Casey Hughes) – 24

185. Deirdre Skiles (Dani Andropoulous) – 23

186. Kerr Smith (Ryder Hughes) – 22

187. Brayden Schenck & Declan Schenck (Ethan Snyder) – 21

188. Jared & Lindsey Baskin (Daniel Hughes) – 20

189. Christina Chambers (Molly Conlan) – 19

* Roy Eudon (Brad Snyder) – 19

 

191. Bryan Abadrabo (Will Munson) – 18

* Colleen Feehan (Sage Snyder) – 18

* Alexandra Herzog (Jennifer Munson) – 18

* Ryan Serhant (Evan Walsh) – 18

* Alan White (Chris Hughes) – 18

196. Kenneth Franklin (Dallas Griffin) – 17

197. Matthew Morrison (Adam Munson) – 16

* Yvonne Perry (Rosanna Cabot) – 16

* Harry Zittel (Adam Munson) – 16

200. Michael Cardelle (Rafe Ortega) – 15

* Christian Siefert (Chris Hughes) – 15

* Sam Stone (Daniel Hughes) – 15

 

203. Nell Mooney (Spencer McKay)- 14

* Isabella Palmieri (Natalie Snyder) – 14

205. Graham Winton (Caleb Snyder) – 13

206. Alexa Gerasimovich (Natalie Snyder) – 12

207. Amy Princine (Alison Stewart) – 11

208. Ed Fry (Larry McDermott) – 10

* Allyson Rice-Taylor (Connor Walsh) – 10

210. Ian Boyd (Casey Hughes) – 9

 

211. Kelly Barrett (Maddie Coleman) – 5

* Rosemary Prinz (Penny Hughes) – 5

* Michael Swan (Duncan McKechnie) – 5

214. Patricia Bruder (Ellen Stewart) – 4

* Tyler Hudson (Kevin Davis) – 4

* Emmy Rossum (Abigail Williams) – 4

217. Carmen Duncan (Lisa) – 3

* Gillian Spencer (Jennifer Sullivan) – 3

* Anne Sward (Lyla Peretti) – 3

220. Kevin Csolak (Daniel Hughes) – 2

* John Howard (Paul Ryan) – 2

* Amanda Seyfried (Lucy Montgomery) – 2

 

223. Steve Bassett (Seth Snyder) – 1

* Sarah Hyland (Alison Stewart) – 1

* Chloe Morris (Bonnie McKechnie) – 1

* Julianne Moore (Frannie Hughes) – 1

 

According to this compiled list, in the last 12 years of the show, Eileen Fulton ranked 26th in  the number of appearances, Kathryn Hays was 18th, Don Hastings was 19th, and poor Helen Wagner was way down at 59th.

 

Among the top 30, there were 10 characters whom I did not want on the show at all, and and almost as many actors whom I felt were badly recast and difficult to watch. 

 

NOTE: I am not taking credit for compiling this list. I found it in the SON archive.

 

Edited June 23, 2018 by vetsoapfan

[dragonflies]

It's not nonsense, even if she didn't lead episode counts, the show can still revolve around her.  It was obvious Goutman had a hard on for Katie/TC(Peck). Disagree if you want, but I've seen this same sentiment from a lot of people

[JarrodMFiresofLove]

Ellen Dolan is in the wrong spot. She should be right above Colleen Zenk. And if you add Martha Byrne's total for Lily and her total for Rose, she would come in third.

[All My Shadows]

I've seen this same sentiment from a lot of people, too, and I still say it's nonsense because I am looking at quantitative facts that state that Maura West and Michael Park dominated airtime for 13 years. They were literally in the majority of thirteen years' worth of episodes. Over 3,400 episodes, and they were in most of them. But the show revolved around Katie. Got it.

There's nothing wrong with just saying "I hated Katie, and she was on too much."

[JarrodMFiresofLove]

 

I think if someone went back and looked through all those episodes they could figure out the amount of screen time per episode. We know that when Eileen Fulton appears in an episode by Hogan Sheffer, she's lucky if she gets two scenes. But episodes with Carly and Jack see them in anywhere from 5 to 10 scenes. So not only does CarJack appear the most, they usually have the most screen time in the episodes on which they appear. By comparison, a lot of time Katie was used as comic relief in quick scenes that were basically filler between the other main plots. So she was not really dominating the episodes in which she appeared.