Members All My Shadows Posted June 21, 2018 Members Share Posted June 21, 2018 Yeah, they have basically every daytime program that aired on select dates in 1971 and 1973. So, not only all of the soaps of those years (including Where the Heart Is and Return to Peyton Place, of which no video episodes have ever surfaced online as far as I know) but also several game shows that have been mostly wiped out, including one of my favorites, ABC’s Split Second. I wonder if they know how extremely rare these episodes are. I would hope that if they did, they’d spend more time working on getting them presentable. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members vetsoapfan Posted June 21, 2018 Members Share Posted June 21, 2018 Just being able to see Papa Bauer's funeral episode again was a welcome miracle. I had saved it on audiotape, but went in Nirvana when the full-color, excellent-quality video appeared. We have heard, over the years, about so much vintage material from all areas of entertainment simply rotting away and being discarded by indifferent custodians/employees...it's infuriating. Are there specific actors/characters from TGL whom you really want the chance to see? A soap-trading acquaintance of mine has various vintage episodes on 16-mm film but lacks the facilities to transfer them. Don't 16-mm projectors still exist? He also has soap eps on U-Matic and Beta videotape, which he cannot play or dub to another format, either. I've him that I at least have a working Betamax, and would be happy to convert his ancient Beta tapes to DVD, but he said he was too worried that they would get lost or damaged in the mail. While that is possible, I think it's MORE likely that the tapes will rot into dust if they remain sitting in a box in his basement year after year, decade after decade. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DramatistDreamer Posted June 21, 2018 Members Share Posted June 21, 2018 There are several episodes of ATWT from the 80s that having singing (Lyla for example) but not tracks by recording artists. If you group some of the episodes by some of the big storylines like the Tad Channing murder mystery, I don't remember much music by popular recording artists being used during those episodes. There are a good number of episodes from '86 and '87 that use muted instrumental music in the music (e.g. an organ instrumental version of Billy Ocean's Suddenly with no vocals at all). I think 1988 would be a huge problem in terms of recorded music because there are scenes in Lisa's club, The Cellar where you can hear a lot of very popular music blaring in certain scenes. 1988 was a writer's strike year, so I would be willing to forgo that year, LOL. I understand how that episode from GL would be a problem because the music is threaded all through the scene and it is LOUD! It may come down to being able to sort through episodes and that would take a LOT of manpower. Years ago, I also communicated with Roger Newcomb through the WLS blog and at that time, it sounded as if they had a small band of people working on the project. It sounded difficult to sustain. This may not be comparable but it sounds like they need experts, like the people who do film restoration and again, I'm not sure how much value PGP really places on these soaps to bring in digital experts and film restoration people. UCLA is a film school but having attended a famous art school on the East Coast (that also had a film school) you'd be surprised how academic institutions can allow certain items to sit and rot unless there is some deep-pocketed alumni steps in and renovate and refurbish. The school will spend its resources to maintain more 'high priority' areas and neglect other areas unless some group raises the issue. UCLA may not know/care about what they regard as some canceled soaps and game shows vs. some early films by John Cassevettes, for example. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members dragonflies Posted June 22, 2018 Members Share Posted June 22, 2018 Trent was just live on Facebook, he replied to a few of my comments *faints* 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Soapsuds Posted June 22, 2018 Members Share Posted June 22, 2018 I saw that and was going to ask a question but passed...LOL. His character wasn't my favorite and I still hate that he ended up with Babs. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members dragonflies Posted June 22, 2018 Members Share Posted June 22, 2018 @Soapsuds There's another chat tomorrow with Martha and Van and a few others 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members All My Shadows Posted June 22, 2018 Members Share Posted June 22, 2018 And that bugs the hell out of me because why accept it and hold on to it in the first place? Regardless of content, the fact that it's some of the very last footage of that era should be enough for them to properly take care of it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Soapsuds Posted June 22, 2018 Members Share Posted June 22, 2018 Ah....I might tune in to that one..... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DramatistDreamer Posted June 22, 2018 Members Share Posted June 22, 2018 OMG, yes to this! I've been rewriting/undoing so many ATWT storylines in my mind and this is one of them. I would've have written them as not making it to the altar--I would have written an alive Gunnar show up, reminiscent of when Duncan showed up at Shannon's wedding to Brian McColl. Gunnar could say "Hello Barbara" similar to how James said it when he showed up from "the dead". 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SoapDope Posted June 22, 2018 Members Share Posted June 22, 2018 I was told years ago by a person who does archival work that video tapes will not save for very long and degrade rapidly. He needs to make a decision as whether he wants to try and save them or let them be lost forever. He could find a 16mm projector on ebay or someone who wants to get rid of one. There are also companies who transfer stuff like home movies etc...there is someone out there who could help him. I wonder if Irna Phillips estate has old episodes ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Soapsuds Posted June 22, 2018 Members Share Posted June 22, 2018 Henry was as gay as a picnic basket. He should've ended up with a guy at the end. There is no way Barbara would've chosen Henry as her soulmate. I thought she had better chemistry with Hank(Brian Stratcher) than with Henry of all people. It should've been a Gunnar/Barbara ending. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members vetsoapfan Posted June 22, 2018 Members Share Posted June 22, 2018 Right. I have told him this many times, but he's in denial. I think it's because he has such a vast amount of material, he does not know what to start transferring first, and therefore he's become paralyzed with indecision. My advice has been: choose the material that you love best, and copy that first. If you love everything equally, then start with the oldest and rarest episodes you've got; material unlikely to have been saved anywhere else. He says that if he just keeps his tapes in storage and does not abuse them by frequent play, they should be okay. Nooooooooooo. But alas, I cannot force him to do anything. Please register in order to view this content I imagine Goutman and Pissy thought a Babs/Henrey pairing would be "cute," but in the end, it was just stupid. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DRW50 Posted June 22, 2018 Members Share Posted June 22, 2018 I didn't really mind it. It gave Barbara a year or more of story, which was the most she'd had in a role beyond embarrassing camp villain, and I didn't think it made the character look bad, unlike most of those plots. She and Henry weren't a fantastic couple, but I thought they were decent enough together. I would have wanted more for Barbara, but compared to most of what she'd gotten, I enjoyed it for what it was. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members vetsoapfan Posted June 22, 2018 Members Share Posted June 22, 2018 Personally, I was annoyed at the Babs/Henry pairing BECAUSE she had had so many awful stories in the previous years, that I wanted to show to send her off with a bang, not a snicker. Another thing that vexed me was Nancy's death being so much about Katie. Vomit. Goutman claimed she was "America's sweetheart," an idea that made my head spin. LOL, I have been rewriting and fixing soap stories and blunders in my head for decades! Please register in order to view this content 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DRW50 Posted June 22, 2018 Members Share Posted June 22, 2018 He actually said that? No wonder the writing for her was so suffocating. I would have wanted a bang for Barbara too, but compared to the way she and the other vets were showcased (or not showcased), I was pleased enough. If Hal had still been alive (Benjamin Hendrickson too of course) I would have wanted them back together. I haven't really seen a lot of Barbara and Gunnar together so I can't judge their relationship. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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