On 12/25/2020 at 11:55 PM, DRW50 said:

Is the first old woman in this ad Kate Wilkinson (Viola Stapleton)?

 

 

 

It certainly looks like it.

Edited December 30, 20204 yr by zanereed

Thanks.

On 10/26/2020 at 3:08 PM, DRW50 said:

I have a very hard time watching Hilary's funeral episode. There's just such a falseness, from the very camera-ready performance from Trent Jones (who is a very good actor and did wonderful work on Ryan's Hope) and Richard Van Vleet among others, to the strong undertone of "yeah it's sad, get over it now" in some of the writing choices for various characters, to how cheap the set looks (even though at this time they were more than able to blow out the budget on location shoots). Even starting the episode with Jonathan, rather than the Bauers. The main heartbreak I can feel is from Charita Bauer, and I have to wonder how much of that is her knowing how ill she was (IIRC the others at the show did not).

 

I finally watched this episode for the first time in a long while, and I completely agree. First, Hilary's death was utterly pointless, making it two years in a row of a pointless Bauer death in order push forward a storyline (Bill Bauer's death being the other from 1983). Second, no Mike, no Hope...and I forgot to pay attention if they even mentioned Simone Kinkaid (Hilary's mother)? Charita was fantastic, as always. I guess we are lucky that Hilary even received a funeral - Bert Bauer's "funeral" episode in 1986 was an absolute travesty.

 

I'm making my way through those February 1991 episodes.  I'm not sure how much of this was posted before, but I think I skipped whatever bandstandmike had posted from earlier that year and started with the summer—although I always meant to go back and see how Curlee/Demorest, et al laid the groundwork for what came later.

 

I'm curious how far out in the middle of nowhere was Holly's (previously Reva's, I know) house supposed to be?  The way her first visitors were carrying on was surprising to me because, in later years, it seemed to be as centrally located as anywhere else in Springfield, like when Roger managed to drag himself there with a gunshot wound and hide out in her basement.  And Holly made a reference to setting up a fax machine and modem so that she could keep in touch with WSPR...was she supposed to be telecommuting or what?  I guess she was 30 years ahead of us (and technology).

 

In any event, I so hope there are more episodes coming and we get to see that party Nadine talked Holly into throwing there to introduce her to Springfield as the new Mrs. Billy Lewis.

1 hour ago, DeliaIrisFan said:

I'm making my way through those February 1991 episodes.  I'm not sure how much of this was posted before, but I think I skipped whatever bandstandmike had posted from earlier that year and started with the summer—although I always meant to go back and see how Curlee/Demorest, et al laid the groundwork for what came later.

 

I'm curious how far out in the middle of nowhere was Holly's (previously Reva's, I know) house supposed to be?  The way her first visitors were carrying on was surprising to me because, in later years, it seemed to be as centrally located as anywhere else in Springfield, like when Roger managed to drag himself there with a gunshot wound and hide out in her basement.  And Holly made a reference to setting up a fax machine and modem so that she could keep in touch with WSPR...was she supposed to be telecommuting or what?  I guess she was 30 years ahead of us (and technology).

 

In any event, I so hope there are more episodes coming and we get to see that party Nadine talked Holly into throwing there to introduce her to Springfield as the new Mrs. Billy Lewis.

Pam Long originally create 5th Street to be the down rent version of 7th Street, which was blue collar but respectable..When Harley first came on she was termed a "river rat" as she lived in the wrong side of the river. I do wish later writers had dug that up..like she she married Phillip and someone would snicker.."Wasnt she a river rat???"  Reva during her attempted suicide (and I agree with Zimmer, totally out of character) jumped from the rich side and was saved by Cain and dragged to the poor side...which is why she bought "Reva Bend." which was a dump until she let H.B. pay for renevations.  So, RevaBend was not out in the country.. in SF but the wrong side of SF. I do like Long's attention to geography and the class system....the Bauers, the Spauldings, the Chamberlines and the Lewises lived "on the hill" and then here was 7th Street and 5th Street, etc. I would think by the time Holly bought it, that area was gentrifying.

Edited January 2, 20214 yr by Mitch

What is everyone’s opinion on the Annabelle Sims/Lake Elizabeth storyline from 1983?

 

 

7 hours ago, cassadine1991 said:

What is everyone’s opinion on the Annabelle Sims/Lake Elizabeth storyline from 1983?

 

Granted, the storyline was built on an absurd premise (that Bill Bauer, Henry Chamberlain, H.B. Lewis, Tom Reardon and Brandon Spaulding were all friendly with each other and liked to go on fishing trips together) that contradicted established history.  (For one thing, the Lewises and Spauldings weren't even IN Springfield until the 1970's and early '80's).  But, on its' face, I think it was a well-told mystery that affected all the major families in town.

 

And it was a damn sight better than the Maryanne Caruthers mystery, too.   

Edited January 2, 20214 yr by Khan

44 minutes ago, Khan said:

 

Granted, the storyline was built on an absurd premise (that Bill Bauer, Henry Chamberlain, H.B. Lewis, Tom Reardon and Brandon Spaulding were all friendly with each other and liked to go on fishing trips together) that contradicted established history.  (For one thing, the Lewises and Spauldings weren't even IN Springfield until the 1970's and early '80's).  But, on its' face, I think it was a well-told mystery that affected all the major families in town.

 

And it was a damn sight better than the Maryanne Caruthers mystery, too.   

Agreed..it was at the point in the show that all the families had equal time and they all "worked" together...Reardon's blue collar...Bauer's upper middle class professionals, Lewis'  "neuvo riche" as Alex would love to say, Spauldings and Chamerlins...rich aristocratic and dysfunctional.  The forumla should never had changed. Anway..the storyline itself while as you said, very premise was absurd it was a good tight mystery (and it didnt hurt to have Mr. Tony Reardon in the center of it all..)

18 hours ago, Mitch said:

Pam Long originally create 5th Street to be the down rent version of 7th Street, which was blue collar but respectable..When Harley first came on she was termed a "river rat" as she lived in the wrong side of the river. I do wish later writers had dug that up..like she she married Phillip and someone would snicker.."Wasnt she a river rat???"  Reva during her attempted suicide (and I agree with Zimmer, totally out of character) jumped from the rich side and was saved by Cain and dragged to the poor side...which is why she bought "Reva Bend." which was a dump until she let H.B. pay for renevations.  So, RevaBend was not out in the country.. in SF but the wrong side of SF. I do like Long's attention to geography and the class system....the Bauers, the Spauldings, the Chamberlines and the Lewises lived "on the hill" and then here was 7th Street and 5th Street, etc. I would think by the time Holly bought it, that area was gentrifying.

 

Fascinating.  Well, in those scenes when Holly moved in the house was...not that.  Ross made a joke about Holly being alone in the middle of the woods like in a horror movie...

 

Was it ever stated on-air that Holly's was supposed to be the same house where Reva lived, or is it possible they just reused the set?

5 hours ago, Mitch said:

Anway..the storyline itself while as you said, very premise was absurd it was a good tight mystery (and it didnt hurt to have Mr. Tony Reardon in the center of it all..)

 

And, between the resemblance between Annabelle and her mother, and Quint and Nola's involvement, it had those nice, Gothic touches that someone like Agnes Nixon would have appreciated.  I'm just sorry the writers didn't follow the same template for the mystery with Miss Piper and the Cottage of Doom.

17 minutes ago, Khan said:

 

And, between the resemblance between Annabelle and her mother, and Quint and Nola's involvement, it had those nice, Gothic touches that someone like Agnes Nixon would have appreciated.  I'm just sorry the writers didn't follow the same template for the mystery with Miss Piper and the Cottage of Doom.

I never understood why Nola and Quint weren't more involved with the Cottage of Doom.  Sacrilege but I would have killed off Quint in that storyline not Butch Hillary..there was nowhere to go with him. Carrie Nye threatening Nola and Nola not taking any of that crap would have been great...but they had to shoehorn annoying Fletch in..