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Barbara Norris had comic difficulty remembering her granddaughter’s new name when she returned for Holly’s wedding to Fletcher.  She kept using Christina or any name that started with B other than Blake. 
 

I am of the belief that Springfield simply became the new location in 1966.  No characters moved; they just lived in a place called Springfield now. I don’t think we’ll ever really know for sure. However if someone could compare the sets used for Bill and Bert’s house and Meta and Bruce’s house from the early sixties to the later 60s—well, if they’re the same exact sets, then the characters didn’t physically move. 
 

Also, Papa Bauer’s death and funeral just a few years later has him as a pillar of the Springfield comumunity—after 6 years?  I prefer to believe that he’d lived there many years. 
 

By the time of Meta’s reintroduction and the constant references to the various Reverends Rutledge, it seems as though Springfield has always been the setting. 
 

Of course, the show re-wrote history constantly  We saw Alan move to Springfield and  buy his house in the late 70’s. A decade later, the Spaulding have a mansion that has always been in the family. They have apparently lived there for generations. 

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1 hour ago, Forever8 said:

Alan Locher will welcome the Simon family to his YouTube show, The Locher Room. Join Peter (ex-Ed, GUIDING LIGHT, et al), his wife, Courtney Simon (ex-Kathy, SEARCH FOR TOMORROW, et al, and a Daytime Emmy Award-winning former scribe for ALL MY CHILDREN, SANTA BARBARA and other soaps), and their daughter, Kate Hall, who is currently a member of GH’s writing team, for the interview on Wednesday September 2, at 3 p.m. ET, 

https://www.soapoperadigest.com/content/guiding-light-alum-and-family-virtual-interview/

Can't wait!

 

Not sure if this was posted but ex Bill GL....ex Billy YR will appear with his mom.

 

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42 minutes ago, antmunoz said:

Barbara Norris had comic difficulty remembering her granddaughter’s new name when she returned for Holly’s wedding to Fletcher.  She kept using Christina or any name that started with B other than Blake. 
 

I am of the belief that Springfield simply became the new location in 1966.  No characters moved; they just lived in a place called Springfield now. I don’t think we’ll ever really know for sure. However if someone could compare the sets used for Bill and Bert’s house and Meta and Bruce’s house from the early sixties to the later 60s—well, if they’re the same exact sets, then the characters didn’t physically move. 
 

Also, Papa Bauer’s death and funeral just a few years later has him as a pillar of the Springfield comumunity—after 6 years?  I prefer to believe that he’d lived there many years. 
 

By the time of Meta’s reintroduction and the constant references to the various Reverends Rutledge, it seems as though Springfield has always been the setting. 
 

Of course, the show re-wrote history constantly  We saw Alan move to Springfield and  buy his house in the late 70’s. A decade later, the Spaulding have a mansion that has always been in the family. They have apparently lived there for generations. 

 

Hm, that's interesting. I would hate that kind of a move to a new location, to be honest. I know it's not a big deal, but just renaming the town overnight, it would irk me :D

And it is annoying when they do things like that (e.g. Alan buying a house on screen, but later referring to it as that always being the Spaulding home). Don't they have have (or at least back then) people who are there to spot continuity errors? lol

 

4 hours ago, Bill Bauer said:

 

 

I've never read anything about a flood. The move from Five Points to Selby Flats happened after Rev. Ruthledge died. His adopted son Ned brought Rev. Ruthledge's friendship lamp to his best friend in seminary, Rev. Charles Matthews, who was living in Selby Flats. Thus, the locale switched. By that time, most of the original characters had been written out and, I believe (though I could very well be wrong about the timing) that the transition happened in 1946 when The Guiding Light was off the air for a little bit. So, when they returned, it was just a whole new setting and cast of characters with the only thing really surviving from the previous story being the friendship lamp. The only characters (I think) who transitioned to Selby Flats (Ned didn't stick around) was Claire Marshall and her new husband Jonathan MacNeil and maybe a couple of characters who were in their orbit. I'm not sure about that but the story during that time period was mostly focused on them. The Ruthledges and the Kranskys had been written out. The exact years are a little fuzzy because I've read that Rev. Ruthledge died in WW2 (he was an army chaplain) but Ned didn't take his friendship lamp to Selby Flats until 1946 which was a year after the war ended. Maybe it just took him a year to get around to it? I think they just had Jonathan and Claire move to Selby Flats perhaps a new job in a hospital for Jonathan. But the transition was smoother and more realistic than the transition from Selby Flats to Springfield. In that transition, the entire cast practically moved together to Springfield. I would like to know the answer to that one as that move was always more mysterious. I've never read anything about it being about Bill getting a new job. I did read, I believe, something about Paul Fletcher getting transferred to a new hospital in Springfield. Why the Bauers went with him, I don't know. They may not have even tried to explain it. Perhaps they just started referring to their town as Springfield. That would have been 1966, I believe. Although the cast was not that large at that time, it would be less implausible that everyone would follow Paul out to Springfield than it would be in later years but it's still implausible and I wonder how they explained it (if they did at all). The history books are pretty silent on the subject on the move to Springfield. I would assume that Paul got the job in Springfield, moved with Robin and Johnny and then told Bill about a job so the Bauers moved there too. I don't know. At that point, the Bauers and the Fletchers made up most of the cast. There was probably an exit/entrance for peripheral characters . Just speculation. 

 

Personally, I didn't like the locale changes. I wish they would have just left it Five Points. I was partial to that town. 

 

Oh do I get this correctly that then Bauers did not appear on the show prior to the move to Selby Flats? I thought they had been one of the Rev Ruthledge church members, just not as prominent characters. I  am asking because you mention that the only characters to move to Selby Flats are Claire and her husband. But indeed I agree that this sounds like a much better transition than the one to Springfield. That one is just ..... yikes!

 

10 minutes ago, Soapsuds said:

Can't wait!

 

Not sure if this was posted but ex Bill GL....ex Billy YR will appear with his mom.

 

Oh wow, Billy Abbott... I never liked him that role. Him or Kelly Kruger as Mac. Neither of them was Billy/Mac to me.. 

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1 minute ago, Manny said:

 

Hm, that's interesting. I would hate that kind of a move to a new location, to be honest. I know it's not a big deal, but just renaming the town overnight, it would irk me :D

And it is annoying when they do things like that (e.g. Alan buying a house on screen, but later referring to it as that always being the Spaulding home). Don't they have have (or at least back then) people who are there to spot continuity errors? lol

 

 

Oh do I get this correctly that then Bauers did not appear on the show prior to the move to Selby Flats? I thought they had been one of the Rev Ruthledge church members, just not as prominent characters. I  am asking because you mention that the only characters to move to Selby Flats are Claire and her husband. But indeed I agree that this sounds like a much better transition than the one to Springfield. That one is just ..... yikes!

 

Oh wow, Billy Abbott... I never liked him that role. Him or Kelly Kruger as Mac. Neither of them was Billy/Mac to me.. 

I forgot to mention his name...Ryan Brown😂played both Billys

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5 minutes ago, Soapsuds said:

I forgot to mention his name...Ryan Brown😂played both Billys

No worries. It was also visible on the Youtube video title that you posted ;)

I completely forgot that he was on GL playing Bill until you reminded me with your post :) That was a fun fact to see see ;)

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12 minutes ago, Manny said:

 

Oh do I get this correctly that then Bauers did not appear on the show prior to the move to Selby Flats? I thought they had been one of the Rev Ruthledge church members, just not as prominent characters. I  am asking because you mention that the only characters to move to Selby Flats are Claire and her husband. But indeed I agree that this sounds like a much better transition than the one to Springfield. That one is just ..... yikes!

 That is correct. The Bauers were never in Five Points. The move to Selby Flats happened in 1946. The first Bauer, Meta, didn't appear until 1948. The Bauers never knew Rev. Ruthledge. 

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6 minutes ago, Bill Bauer said:

 That is correct. The Bauers were never in Five Points. The move to Selby Flats happened in 1946. The first Bauer, Meta, didn't appear until 1948. The Bauers never knew Rev. Ruthledge. 

Thank you for your insight! I always thought Bauers were there from the start! 

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2 hours ago, Bill Bauer said:

 That is correct. The Bauers were never in Five Points. The move to Selby Flats happened in 1946. The first Bauer, Meta, didn't appear until 1948. The Bauers never knew Rev. Ruthledge. 


And yet Meta (Mary Stuart) refers to Reverend Rutledge—“one of the best men I’ve ever known for helping people in trouble”—and the church at Five Points at Thanksgiving one year. 


History is flexible. 

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1 hour ago, antmunoz said:


And yet Meta (Mary Stuart) refers to Reverend Rutledge—“one of the best men I’ve ever known for helping people in trouble”—and the church at Five Points at Thanksgiving one year. 


History is flexible. 

 Yeah, there was a lot of revisionist history being written in the latter days. They introduced a character who was supposed to be Rev. Ruthledge's grandson who had the last name Ruthledge who everybody knew of because Reverend Ruthledge was so famous in Springfield. Even though Rev. Ruthledge only had a daughter and even though he was way too young to be Reverend Ruthledge's grandson and even though Reverend Ruthledge didn't live in Springfield. I guess it was nice of them to give a nod to the origins of the show but I don't see the purpose since the only viewers who would even get the reference are soap history geeks who would know that they completely butchered history in the process.

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15 hours ago, Bill Bauer said:

 Yeah, there was a lot of revisionist history being written in the latter days. They introduced a character who was supposed to be Rev. Ruthledge's grandson who had the last name Ruthledge who everybody knew of because Reverend Ruthledge was so famous in Springfield. Even though Rev. Ruthledge only had a daughter and even though he was way too young to be Reverend Ruthledge's grandson and even though Reverend Ruthledge didn't live in Springfield. I guess it was nice of them to give a nod to the origins of the show but I don't see the purpose since the only viewers who would even get the reference are soap history geeks who would know that they completely butchered history in the process.

I think it all started with Pam Long's first run..surprising enough..the Eli Simms story had all the patriarchs knowing each other and Brandon in town, and then Alex herself is a revision as Alan mentioned no sister...(though on this count it was worth it and they did mention that they were estranged and had spoken for years so...) then we have the Cabin Mystery and the Founder's Day ball and the Spaulding "always lived in the castle." The show then morphed the house Alan bought next to Ed';s house (to appease the dull Hope who didnt like the mansion) into the mansion property adjoining the Bauers..

 

Its is forgivable as it makes more sense that the Spaulding were always there so I consider just like other families who are friends with the Bauers, Lewises and Spauldings that you never hear about but have to"exist" in their fictional world. I think they could have just said "I remember when Five Points and Selby Flats were towns on their own  that the Reverend would take care of along with this town, until Springfield annexed them." (despite Selby Flats being in California..right?)

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1 hour ago, Mitch said:

Its is forgivable as it makes more sense that the Spaulding were always there so I consider just like other families who are friends with the Bauers, Lewises and Spauldings that you never hear about but have to"exist" in their fictional world. I think they could have just said "I remember when Five Points and Selby Flats were towns on their own  that the Reverend would take care of along with this town, until Springfield annexed them." (despite Selby Flats being in California..right?)

Lol that's more believable than a few other ways

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2 hours ago, Mitch said:

 I think they could have just said "I remember when Five Points and Selby Flats were towns on their own  that the Reverend would take care of along with this town, until Springfield annexed them." (despite Selby Flats being in California..right?)

 

That does make pretty good sense, except that Peapack was too small to annex anything at all, except maybe a garden plot 😉

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3 hours ago, Broderick said:

 

That does make pretty good sense, except that Peapack was too small to annex anything at all, except maybe a garden plot 😉

 

I refuse to believe Peapack was part of "continuity" and as such never happened.

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