Follow-through is the main problem with Y&R. Character motivation is a total mess.

Why does Chloe not care that Billy is no longer a Chancellor when she longed to marry a Chancellor?

Why are we supposed to forget about Mac's history with JT?

Chloe doesn't care because being a mother to Delia is more important to her now. There was a scene where she is trying to convince Cane not to take Delia she said you made me a Chancellor, Billy made me an Abbott and Delia made me a mother.

I think the writers felt that they addressed Mac's history with JT by having Billy mention her "stint with JT".

Nick is irredeemable. His promise to love any woman now is forever a joke. The character is now the soap version of John Edwards. Which would not bother me if the soap had some heroic bright characters to counter all the douchebags on the show. That's another reason I want Raul/David Lago to stay. We don't have any true good guys on canvas. I don't mean "good" just because they're not actively douchey (Daniel, Kevin), I mean good as in heroic. I think the complaints about Nick, Billy, Adam and all the other messed up characters would dry up pretty quickly if we had prominent good guys like Raul & JT, who were out there as counterpoints to the creeps. Even AMC, with all its problems, has decided good guys in Jesse, Frankie, Brot, Jake, and Scott. Besides visiting Raul and always off-screen JT, are there any genuinely heroic guys on the shows?

Personally, I'll settle for honorable. For years Neil filled that role for me. He may not be the most exciting character, but I always felt I could count on him to simply do the right thing and I loved having that to count on. I guess I saw him as a great father figure type character. MAB killed all that in one fell swoop all for Tyra. Tyra!! If Neil had been married to Karen and Dru came back and Neil just had to be with her, that I would understand, but Tyra!

Now Mac is the only character left that I consider honorable. It's one of the reasons I have loved this character through all the casting and recasting problems. She's original. A good girl who rarely plays the pathetic victim. I can only hope that MAB understands the character. We have Chloe and Amber to raise hell and stab people in the back. Sharon to cry a bucket of tears every week. Mac tries to do what is right always, she doesn't break up families or steal husbands. She is a stoic. DO NOT %&* WITH MY MAC Y&R. Just do not do it.

i loved her outfit though*

i just can't wait to see Jack and Billy's scenes tomorrow.

*This statement in no way represents any inkling of support for this horrible actress/character

No don't get me wrong I think she's beautiful , I always seem to agree with Neil when he compliments her though her scenes with Him seems worse than her scenes with BRY. Or is it just me?

This show needs a thorough clean up.

Let me use (annoying for some, I bet) an analogy from the mythology: it needs a Hercules who will clean the Augean stables in one day by rerouting the rivers Alpheus and Peneus to wash out the filth.

So no to large-scale slaughter, but a clean-up is necessary.

Edited May 26, 200916 yr by Sylph

Wonderful. Just what this show needs is one more person who doesn't want to act. I'm about finished with these people who just want to show up and be themselves. Someday I'll learn to stop reading interviews. I rarely come away happy with what I hear.

!!!!!!!!!!!!

It's hard to learn to stop reading but I too feel the same way. I'm one fo those persons who does not find the backstage drama behind this show appealing, or the actors internal issues mostly appealing either.

Edited May 26, 200916 yr by classicmoment

Too many useless characters clogging the screen.

!!!!!!!!!!!!

It's hard to learn to stop reading but I too feel the same way. I'm one fo those persons who does not find the backstage drama behind this show appealing, or the actors internal issues mostly appealing either.

I'll admit to being a bit of a gossip whore, but when it comes to interviews, I know it's best to completely avoid them. I never buy soap magazines and I rarely click on an interview link, but every once in awhile my curiosity gets the better of me. I'm usually sorry.

Edited May 26, 200916 yr by Juliajms

Warning, NO spoilers below. In fact, their OPPOSITE. But I am speculating based on a Thom Bierdz interview, and I intuit I am right, so skip this post if you don't even want intuitive speculation that might be right....

Although Bierdz was very careful to say nothing, I feel he told us volumes in one section:

I believe that has told us EVERYTHING. Some people cringed when we speculated about this apparent story direction a few weeks back...and wondered how it could be plausibly told...and felt in some ways it might be damaging..but it seems pretty "locked in" to me based on the above. Sorry to be so indirect.

I don't know the meaning of it. But Cane better still be a fraud. If TB isn't coming back to be the real Philip 3rd. I hope Philip is reeally dead.

Edited May 26, 200916 yr by MoTheGreat

Cutting down the cast, the young and the ruthless-like:

Eden

Jana

Kevin

Daniel*

Amber

Heather*

Tyra

Ana

JT

Victoria**

Colleen**

Lily**

Cane

Gloria*

Jeffrey* (even though I love the Shack)

* come back at a later stage

** come back at a later stage recasted

I'll wait to see about nuAdam -- but I am feeling very dispirited about that whole mess and all the accusations and speculation flying around. We'll see. He could be amazing... or on this list.

And I hear ya, dmarex, about needing to take time away and recharge the batteries. I'm thinking I need to do that, too.

Edited May 26, 200916 yr by Cat

I did like how enthusiastic Noah was about the baby. It was sweet. Yeah, the truth is bound to come out, but it was nice to see him support his mother. I would like to see more of Noah in Sharon's life. He is almost grown up. He should be his mother's greatest supporter not Jack.

Is Devon going off to look for his biological father? I cannot tell where this story is going exactly.

Chloe doesn't care because being a mother to Delia is more important to her now. There was a scene where she is trying to convince Cane not to take Delia she said you made me a Chancellor, Billy made me an Abbott and Delia made me a mother.

ITA. The one thing that has been made clear with Chloe is that she may be unwisely in love with Billy and care about material things, but unlike Billy, Delia is her priority. Chloe is a mother first and foremost. I love that this has not made her a bore. They now have to move her away from Billy and Mac into her own sphere. I miss seeing Chloe at work.

Am watching the beginning of Monday's episode after missing a week of Y&R and -- OMG! Why did nobody warn me about Billy's horrendous flip flops! OMG! My eyes!

I *heart* Billy and think BM exudes sexiness (especially when he's in a suit or quickly disrobing from one) but the lust factor just went down about 5 notches there.

Rul & Mac had five seconds together and they were sweetly hot. And Clementine looks beautiful with her hair tied back. Liz H looks exquisite too.

Detective Hotter-now-than-when-I-was-Justus-on-GH is on. Sweet.

Am watching the beginning of Monday's episode after missing a week of Y&R and -- OMG! Why did nobody warn me about Billy's horrendous flip flops! OMG! My eyes!

I *heart* Billy and think BM exudes sexiness (especially when he's in a suit or quickly disrobing from one) but the lust factor just went down about 5 notches there.

Rul & Mac had five seconds together and they were sweetly hot. And Clementine looks beautiful with her hair tied back. Liz H looks exquisite too.

Detective Hotter-now-than-when-I-was-Justus-on-GH is on. Sweet.

I had no idea Billy even wore flip flops.

I had no idea Billy even wore flip flops.

I know. It was a shock for me, too. Docksiders, definitely. Billy is a prep. But flip-flops? Noooooo. Only the supermodel Gisele can pull off flip-flops. And that's cause she's Brazilian.

Woah. Jack now knows that Billy & Sharon hooked up?

Damn. It must be May sweeps!

I know. It was a shock for me, too. Docksiders, definitely. Billy is a prep. But flip-flops? Noooooo. Only the supermodel Gisele can pull off flip-flops. And that's cause she's Brazilian.

flip flops > everything else in life.

i also live in socal, so perhaps the taints my views. lol.