On 11/21/2022 at 9:25 PM, Joseph said:

The Seller From Facebook Strikes Again! 1966 AW, 

 

I always thought that Irene Daily and Audra Lindlay has so much in character.  They may have not looked alike but their voice was similiar and Irene was a great recast.  I know there was another actress between them.  I often think people cant change but seeing it in my own life.  Lindleys Liz was definetely not nice and did not like Mary & Jims children but maybe Liz really did care for them and after Mary Matthews passing away she stepped up to the plate

This episode comes from Agnes Nixon's collection and it is a pity the episode doesn't have the opening or closing!!!

23 hours ago, antmunoz said:

I didn’t read it, but given the fact that Jake DIED…

 

…I’ll say Joe. 

She chose Jake as the true love of Paulina's life 😂

Edited November 27, 20222 yr by AbcNbc247

17 hours ago, AbcNbc247 said:

She chose Jake as the true love of Paulina's life 😂

Well, he did die on As the World Turns, so maybe she didn't consider that minor detail important even though the discussion frames it in the context of who she would like Paulina to be with in the unlikely eventuality of a revival of AW. 

4 hours ago, Xanthe said:

Well, he did die on As the World Turns, so maybe she didn't consider that minor detail important even though the discussion frames it in the context of who she would like Paulina to be with in the unlikely eventuality of a revival of AW. 

She probably just figures anyone can return from the dead on a soap (and it's not like AW is going to return, much as I wish it would). 

I wonder sometimes how she must have felt when Jake was moved away from Paulina for good, romantically, especially as this was around the time she had gained weight due to her pregnancy. 

I've been going through old tapes to get rid of - a lot of AW Soapnet episodes, no hidden treasures, sadly - and was reminded once again of how much I connected with Cali Timmins as Paulina. Wonderful as Judi was, if I had been watching AW in those years, consecutively, I think I would have had a really hard time accepting Judi in the part. 

(going through them also reminds me of just what a fantastic cast AW had in the late '80s and early '90s)

In terms of "endgame" couples, I prefer Jake and Paulina to Jake and Victoria, regardless of his mortality (btw I think dead people can be the loves of one's life, it is just a lost love).

Besides the issue that Jake raped Victoria's sister, had an affair with her mother, and their strained relationship over the conception of Steven, I think Vicky and Jake were always better as friends than lovers.  It seemed like they were each other's "plan B", when their real loves didn't work out.  From the very beginning, Jake preferred Marley, so the sudden retcon that he always had eyes for Vicky from their time as teenagers seemed absurd.

Paulina and Jake had one of my favorite types of romantic soap stories (under Cali's portrayal), an outsider couple whose love comes from a mutual respect for their cunning intellect when one-upping each other.  Their constant bickering in the first iteration of their affair was amusing and it saved both characters from their recent plot-driven actions which could have soured the audience to enjoying these cads.  But then, under Judi's portrayal (which might as well have been a different character once she stopped wearing those 90s Alaia bandage dresses), Jake grew to appreciate Paulina as a partner not just an object of lust and adoration. 

So, aside from the fact that as always we've made a whole meal out of one line from an inconsequential interview, I think of Jake as Paulina's true love because they grew the most as characters during their paring.

I never liked Joe as a character and was always confused with why Paulina was with him. Paulina had such a spark with Jake. I felt her and Joe were just boring.

Vicky's "endgame" should have been with Ryan. PMV should have been brought back. With Ryan back on the force, Joe would be unnecessary. 

12 minutes ago, Melroser said:

I never liked Joe as a character and was always confused with why Paulina was with him. Paulina had such a spark with Jake. I felt her and Joe were just boring.

Vicky's "endgame" should have been with Ryan. PMV should have been brought back. With Ryan back on the force, Joe would be unnecessary. 

 

Joe was too much of a brute for me, and I always felt that went against who Paulina was attracted to. She always took me as the type to hate bossy men because we saw her take issue to being bossed around by Jake when he tried to do so. One moment that sticks out to me is during the last month of the show and Paulina was claiming she killed Grant to protect Joe, and Joe responded so harshly by telling her to "shut up." In that moment, I wanted Paulina to throw Joe under the bus (even though he wasn't the killer) and let him take the wrap. 

 

Going back and rewatching a lot of soaps, I find myself wincing at a lot of these ultra-masculine characters on a platform that is and has always been targeted to women. I don't know who found these characters appealing or thought they'd be good romantic leads but they weren't. 

As someone who watched AW back then, I never bought Judi Evans as Paulina. Someone on this board mentioned Evans should have played Nancy and I like that idea. I also had no interest in Jake and I wish he had been murdered during the who shot Jake? storyline. I know rapists get "redeemed" or "romanticized" on soaps all the time, but I was done with Jake after he raped Marley. It just made it all the worse when Wheeler came back and they turned Marley into a bit of a whackjob so they could prop up Vicky and Jake. 

I found joseph Barbara more attractive then Eplin so I didn't mind Joe's nonsense especially if he were shirtless. Hypocritical I know.

49 minutes ago, chrisml said:

As someone who watched AW back then, I never bought Judi Evans as Paulina. Someone on this board mentioned Evans should have played Nancy and I like that idea. I also had no interest in Jake and I wish he had been murdered during the who shot Jake? storyline. I know rapists get "redeemed" or "romanticized" on soaps all the time, but I was done with Jake after he raped Marley. It just made it all the worse when Wheeler came back and they turned Marley into a bit of a whackjob so they could prop up Vicky and Jake. 

I found joseph Barbara more attractive then Eplin so I didn't mind Joe's nonsense especially if he were shirtless. Hypocritical I know.

I also thought Joe Barbara was very hot, and I felt like there were moments of humor and tenderness he brought to the part, which probably helped me get past the more barbaric bits. Still, I can see why Paulina fans may have hated the relationship.

Coroner says Anne Heche wasn't under influence of drugs or alcohol when she crashed https://t.co/Kxe1CD9HUS

— John Walter Seip (@johnwalterseip) December 7, 2022

I'm glad to see that about Anne, but it just makes me wonder even more what the hell was going on that day? 

15 hours ago, Melroser said:

I'm glad to see that about Anne, but it just makes me wonder even more what the hell was going on that day? 

I have a feeling it was due to a recurrence of previous mental health issues... made worse by the Pandemic/isolation.

I'm dipping in and out of Alan Rickman's diaries (Madly, Deeply) and was surprised to come across a brief entry mentioning being a guest of Beverly Penberthy in Rye just after Xmas 1995. There's not a lot of context in the book but based on the imdb I gather they met making the movie Judas Kiss. 

ETA: Actually I find they met earlier:

It turns out Beverly– who doesn’t look much different now– acted in the first ever play Alan Rickman directed in the U.S. It was called “Desperately Yours,” and was produced at the Colonnade Theater (now where Blue Man Group resides) in 1980, when Beverly was at the height of her long run on “Another World.” She and Rickman have remained close ever since then. Small world!

 

Edited December 11, 20222 yr by Xanthe
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