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On 3/30/2020 at 11:47 AM, marceline said:

All this talk about enthusiasm is ridiculous. It's another way people have changed the discussion in order to make Bernie seems more important than he is. "Enthusiastic" votes don't count more than others. People look at the cults of Bernie and Trump and decide that's what enthusiasm looks like (instead of what it really is: radicalization) but they completely ignored how many people enthusiastically voted for Hillary. Looking at "enthusiasm" is just another way the press chooses to double down on false narratives instead of paying attention the the real base of the party and how we enthusiastically rejected Bernie.

 

I also feel like the "enthusiasm" argument is part of the media pushing a horse race for ratings. We went through this in 2016 and are again--Bernie is *NOT* as popular as the media makes him out to be. His people whine about him getting unfair press coverage, but like any republican running for office, he gets pass after pass due to "fairness." This cycle he raised more money than anybody and had a built in grassroots movement and tons of good press and STILL couldn't win. Bernie gets lots of excitement on social media, but it is not translating into votes. Young people love them, but where are they when it comes time to vote? They kick and scream because he's losing, but the numbers don't lie.

 

The latest thing is that they say voter suppression, but nobodies vote is suppressed more than the black community and they ALWAYS come out in droves to vote. They just didn't vote for Bernie. Black voters came out in such big numbers that Biden has swept this primary. The media has spent 4 years interviewing Trump voters and talking about how to win over more white people and completely ignored black voters AGAIN. The result isn't a surprise. Bernie didn't even TRY to win these voters over. If the media were being real and not trying to get ratings they would be saying what a horrible candidate Bernie has been. I'm so tired of him and the conspiracy theories.

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For about six months and running, I've been saying that there will be a recession due to Trump's incitement of trade wars.  Now with this pandemic sweeping the world and having to rely on failed leaders like Trump and Boris Johnson, delays from Italian leadership and others, it looks like we are headed for a global recession that could be very painful and lengthy.

 

https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/international/business/why-the-global-recession-could-last-a-long-time/articleshow/74945319.cms

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9 hours ago, Chris B said:

I also feel like the "enthusiasm" argument is part of the media pushing a horse race for ratings. We went through this in 2016 and are again--Bernie is *NOT* as popular as the media makes him out to be. His people whine about him getting unfair press coverage, but like any republican running for office, he gets pass after pass due to "fairness." This cycle he raised more money than anybody and had a built in grassroots movement and tons of good press and STILL couldn't win. Bernie gets lots of excitement on social media, but it is not translating into votes. Young people love them, but where are they when it comes time to vote? They kick and scream because he's losing, but the numbers don't lie.

 

The latest thing is that they say voter suppression, but nobodies vote is suppressed more than the black community and they ALWAYS come out in droves to vote. They just didn't vote for Bernie. Black voters came out in such big numbers that Biden has swept this primary. The media has spent 4 years interviewing Trump voters and talking about how to win over more white people and completely ignored black voters AGAIN. The result isn't a surprise. Bernie didn't even TRY to win these voters over. If the media were being real and not trying to get ratings they would be saying what a horrible candidate Bernie has been. I'm so tired of him and the conspiracy theories.

 

ICAM, @Chris B (and you, too, Willona @marceline).

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Paper applications for unemployment benefits? Florida is an entire mess. These are some of the same folks who wanted rake the Obama administration over the coals for the early missteps with the ACA website but it's far worse to construct a system that intentionally causes endless frustration to applicants.

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What a shocker. Bernie's campaign pandering for this ugly racist was one of its death knells. 

 

 

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1 hour ago, DRW50 said:

What a shocker. Bernie's campaign pandering for this ugly racist was one of its death knells. 

 

 

Why is this trending number one on Twitter??! Rogan is one on those [!@#$%^&*] perpetual frat boy types who will always support Trump because he's their father figure- God-King.

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Does anybody here still actually watch Trump's pressers/neo-rallies in real time, or do you just hear the soundbites from various sources?

 
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8 hours ago, sivad40 said:

Does anybody here still actually watch Trump's pressers/neo-rallies in real time, or do you just hear the soundbites from various sources?

 

 

I never watch. His voice is literally nails on a chalkboard for me. I CAN'T listen to him.

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