The Politics Thread

[sivad40]

A Chris Cuomo rant about Kamala. He's using Obama to put down her and chastising her supporters for believing that all Trump supporters are bigots.

 

 

[JaneAusten]

Lot of projection going on here.  He and his brother have always been trash. Both sexual harassing creeps.  He's likely figured out the grift is more lucrative on the right.  Those people are conned more easily.

[Vee]

Cuomo flipped fast after getting cancelled and fired from mainstream media, unsurprisingly. Not worth posting here, nor is the Daily Caller.

Edited October 23, 2024 by Vee

[Vee]

Whoops:

 

Important, and with a lot of good on the record quotes:

 

[Vee]

Wise for her to force them to cover this.

 

[KristinG79]

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[Vee]

Harris doing this also forced CNN to pick it up as a major headline, among others:

There is another rumor bubbling atm but I am not gonna talk about it unless something real emerges.

 

[DRW50]

If it's the one I saw, then the way things are going these days, I doubt it will change anything (as the Hitler story likely won't - these days I think many on the left and the right agree with his views).

I saw an NBC article about Democrats who are worried Michigan is going or gone, although they don't give their names. This has been the concern with Michigan for a year now, with Pennsylvania worries only becoming more prominent in recent months. Hopefully things can turn around in time.

Chris Cuomo has been trying ever since he was canned from CNN to delve into "both sides both sides both sides" and "can't we all get along." His bitter screed against Kamala at the start gives the game away. Like Nate Silver saying today he thinks Trump will win, that faux-centrist moneymaker set seem sure he is going to win and now they can let their real feelings out.

[Vee]

Cuomo is just another fever swamp reject at this point. As for Michigan, I have seen just as much good data on it and PA in the last week/few days so I'm not particularly concerned about either of them atm. And if you're talking about the story I think of it does not say Michigan is 'going or gone', it just has random off the record background about some nameless people expressing 'deep concern' re: the state.

If anything did drop against Trump it is not about moving his hardcore, who can't be reached no matter virtually what he does. It's just about peeling away more of the less hardcore disgusted voters, which he's been doing since '16.

This had better have very, very good protection on the ground.

 

Edited October 24, 2024 by Vee

[DRW50]

They also said "fall off," which is what makes me wonder just how bad things may be getting.

The more I think about this Trump story the more I think they are trying to get their brand dead supporters to flood to the polls in backlash and trying to get Democrats to take the bait. I think they are also trying to turn around the criticism for their deepfakes.

https://www.wired.com/story/russian-propaganda-unit-storm-1516-false-tim-walz-sexual-abuse-claims/

[Vee]

I say this a lot, but I really do not think it is some masterful ploy lol. This is just the same thing they always do whenever they know a bad piece of Trump oppo is coming out: Claim it's lies or AI ahead of time and deny, deny, deny. It is not some sort of bait game, because it never has been any of the other times.

The Trump-era GOP is not and has never been some brilliant operating system; they are not doing triple headfakes to game the election. The only saving grace of the country is that they have been congenitally inept.

[Wendy]

Whatever this bombshell is, the flop sweat and fear from the sewer of Charlie Kirk and other slime of its ilk is palpable over on TwitX.

Maybe Elmo can jump around some more in a Kabuki dance to distract...

[JaneAusten]

I have a question for folks. I am not criticizing Harris but why do you think that she's focusing on Trump and his danger.  I don't disagree with this at all but part of me wonders if people are just numb to it. Although January 6th - people still remember it. I do recall Biden's speech in Philly about democracy and how the media poked fun at him for it. It turns out people really were concerned. So maybe it's me overthinking this as her closing statement but part of me is concerned that maybe her closing should be focusing on her economic agenda versus democracy and Trump is bad.  Maybe it's PTSD from 2016 lol.

[Wendy]

It does get repetitive, talking about Trump being a danger. But maybe belaboring the point is the only way to really drill it into the heads of prospective voters.

I mean, this is a POS that admires HITLER and wants a staff like HITLER had. Between that disgusting bit, January 6th, and just the general vileness of Donald Trump - and considering he is literally running to try to avoid prison - maybe such hammering is a necessary evil.