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Season 5 Knots Landing got glamorous and it also got corporate with Lotus Point and ventured into James Bond/action thriller territory with Wolfbridge. Lotus Point and Wolfbridge worked because they encompassed the entire canvas and still gave us high emotional stakes character driven storytelling.

1986 GL avoided cancel territory because Capitol was still CBS lowest-rated daytime drama. GL became CBS lowest-rated daytime drama in 1989 but didn't enter cancel territory until 1995.

JFP run started good but couldn't maintain it's momentum and then just fell apart. Yes, JFP got the ratings up in her first year but that was helped by ABC big three tanking at various times during that year and Days being in their post-supercouple/pre-Reilly mess era. The big cast departures of Summer 1992 (Kimberley Simms in June, Sherry Stringfield in August, Beverlee McKinsey in August) derailed all the momentum that had been built during JFP first year. While September-December 1992 weren't bad, the departures left a void in the canvas. January 1993 Maureen Bauer killed off and that whole era from aftermath of Maureen's death until Nancy Curlee leaves the writing team in March 1994 was a chore to get through. That era was marked by way too much Buzz but a positive for me was Michael Zaslow finally getting his long-awaited for Lead Actor Daytime Emmy. June 1994 the start of OJ and GL was not in a good place creatively. Some might say GL limped along in its final 15 years. I would go as far to say GL was effectively over in the aftermath of OJ.

@Antoyne @Taoboi In terms of hotness where do Sean Dominic, Jermaine Rivers, Nathan Owens rank against the BtG trio Sean Freeman, Brandon Claybon, Jibre Hordges? The BtG males got the Y&R males all shook.

Jed Allan was not in the main cast of 90210, so it's possible he might have considered a return to daytime at some point in the second half of the 1990s. James Storm first run on B&B ended in 1994, so that timing works.

Jed Allan was on 90210 in 1994 so the timing doesn't work. I can't think of any other big name soap actors that were in the mid-50s age range in 1994.

I have no idea who the friend Jill wanted was, but I suspect it was either Roscoe Born or Lane Davies.

Re: Alan recasts. Two things I've pointed out before. Daniel Pilon seemed like a stop-gap in order to wrap up Alan storylines and write the character off the canvas. I am 99% sure that JFP had a friend in mind for Alan but said friend was either not available or not interested, thus Ron Raines was cast and he was a virtual unknown to daytime fans but not to musical theater fans.

In MZ last episode (April 23, 1997) it is clear that something is not right health-wise. From what I've read over the years, the whole situation was not handled well.

September 11, 1972 CBS rearranged the soap schedule (all times ET) 11:30 am Love of Life Noon Where the Heart Is 12:30 pm Search for Tomorrow 1 pm Local programming 1:30 pm As the World Turns 2 pm Guiding Light (moved up from 2:30 pm) 2:30 pm The Edge of Night (moved up from 3:30 pm) 3 pm Love is a Many Splendored Thing (moved down from 2 pm) 3:30 pm The Secret Storm (moved down from 3 pm) We know the move for The Edge of Night was an epic failure. The moves of Love is a Many Splendored Thing and The Secret Storm look like tank jobs. March 26, 1973 the soap schedule changed again (all times ET) 11:30 am Love of Life Noon Y&R (series premiere, replaces Where the Heart Is) 12:30 pm Search for Tomorrow 1 pm Local programming 1:30 pm As the World Turns 2 pm Guiding Light 2:30 pm The Edge of Night 3 pm The Price is Right (moved down from 10:30 am, replaces Love is a Many Splendored Thing. 10:30 am had the series premiere of $10,000 Pyramid) 3:30 pm Hollywood's Talking (series premiere, replaces The Secret Storm) 4 pm The Secret Storm (replaces The Vin Scully Show) Isolating The Secret Storm from the rest of the soaps, that looks like sabotage.

I don't consider Andre a playboy, he's more like popular with the ladies.

We knew from Day 1 that Hayley was all about the come up. The supposed pregnancy is how she's going to secure the bag.

Y&R had a fictional country in 1980, San Leandro. I'm thinking it was supposed to be in the Caribbean.

@soapfan770 Hahaha, love it!

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The more I think about it, I'd guess the 1985 favorite was Deidre Hall as supercouple Days was going strong. Robin Strasser won three years earlier but the 1985 nomination was during One Life to Live tanking era (from the 1980s Ratings thread One Life to Live was tanking from when Y&R moved past them for #3 in 1984 until Andrea Evans return in 1985). I broke down Elizabeth Hubbard losses in the As the World Turns thread but I think she had the same issues as Susan Lucci, the submissions were not so great. As for Susan Lucci, the losing streak actually boosted her profile. Even those who never watched All My Children or daytime at all knew who she was. The losing streak also played a part in bringing an audience to the Daytime Emmy broadcasts. It's no wonder the Daytime Emmys stopped being relevant once the streak was over and it's also telling that Susan Lucci was the only Daytime Emmy winner who's win got a People cover story.

We already know Marcus indulged. Maybe Jody likes Marcus for his access to the finer stuff. Larsa still trying to snag a baller, which is just ridiculous at her big age. She got half of Scottie Pippen retirement fund in their divorce plus she apparently has family money so I don't think she's hurting for cash.

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I wonder who was the favorite for 1985 Lead Actress. Does anyone know what episodes Kim Zimmer submitted for 1986 when she lost to Erika Slezak? The 1986 Daytime Emmy broadcast showed no clips for Lead Actress.

GL was so unstable after Nancy Curlee left the writing team in March 1994. A series of writers until Megan McTavish and her run was July 1995 to October 1996. The EP swap from JFP to Michael Laibson in May 1995 and his run was until December 1996. GL entered cancel territory in 1995 and 1996 many consider GL's nadir.

Clifton Davis is almost 80 and he has aged well.

Are you checking for Clifton Davis? 😲

Michael Crawford arc was 1986-1990 I believe. I agree that he was pretty much replaced by John Silva as the go-to lawyer in town. Y&R lawyers in the 1980s were Greg Foster, Mitchell Sherman, Tyrone Jackson, Michael Crawford, Glenn Richards, John Silva. Then in the 1990s Cricket became lawyer Christine and Michael Baldwin arrived.

Can't say I'm surprised re Bea Arthur/Betty White beef. Watch Betty White 1986 Emmy win and when the camera pans to Bea Arthur she does not look happy. Oddly enough, Bea Arthur was close friends with Angela Lansbury and they seem like the two most unlikely people to have a friendship. From what I've seen online, their friendship began when they both starred in the 1966 Broadway production of Mame and lasted until Bea's death.

Forget "what is this mess", I'm like "make that s--- make sense".