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I will stick up for Noxon, who had a lot to say about her role in the recent years since the Whedon scandal. I also liked S6 a lot more than SMG did. I think she got the bulk of criticisms that weren't all her fault. I do think very few people have the touch for BTVS as Whedon and his team did. But Joss just can't be involved again.

I'm not sure BTG is strictly in the same universe as the P&G classic soaps. IIRC June on BTG was caught out for giving a fake alias to the DCPD as "Jessica Griffin," which another character noted was the name of a soap opera character from ATWT. It was a cute little Tamara Tunie in-joke, but I thought it was a shame to lock off referencing the same P&G 'universe.' Of course they can always ignore that in future and do direct in-universe references to GL/ATWT/whatever. No one would care and I'm sure other soaps have danced across the line before.

I think most of us don't have a problem with it. The issue we're referring to is Ingo is currently locked in petty litigation with Disney/ABC claiming (IIRC) they maliciously fired him and are trying to recast him as some sort of punishment, so they're not likely to touch the character for years to come til that's settled.

I will say I think the Donna interview is the only time I've seen Rikaart and Budig really fumble. Most of their episodes have been very strong, well-researched discussions, far moreso than Locher. I am glad Morgan looks better. I just wish FV would find a better way to utilize her and Susan Batten on GH to help keep them on their insurance (which I'll never fault him for). Just let those Home & Heart characters work the Deception shop at the Metro Court. No more home shopping network!

The early draft I have has her on the last page, yes. According to the new Deadline piece they then did a rewrite at Hulu's request where she was in it much more. I agree any revival would have to be primarily about the new generation (which this one evidently was), but I dunno if any would succeed long-term in the current streamer bust age. I was not particularly on tenterhooks for a Buffy revival of any kind, I think it had its time. But I do think it's a pity if some male exec dismissed it out of hand due to the climate of our times. The premise on its face is still a strong one for young girls in the audience.

idk, I think he was over them as a serious love story by the time LW came in. But he did want to keep the relationship ties there and play the drama and Sonny's superior connection to Carly (in his mind), and he did that. They undermined Jax once too often, but they also did fairly play him as devoted to her and her sons. I think LW's connection with Ingo contributed to how much she gave of herself to him as well.

I agree. I'd probably recast eventually, be it for Lois or just for general story. Why they hate her so much I have no idea lol. BK is the only one of that trio who can/bothers to act. What's really fúcked up (and I've said this before) is how interchangeable the pairings are. Frank doesn't care a whit about adding new Black people so Curtis regularly rotates between these two women over and over. He was having a big splashy wedding with Jordan just a couple years before he had another with Portia, and he had the exact same conversations with Portia about 'why my marriage to Jordan didn't work' 3-4 years ago that he's having with Jordan about Portia now. I wish Portia would bring that up.

It's right for Joss to hate Sonny, even if I frankly suspect they have her say those things because they know it'll get a subset of the audience on Eden's side (the same way RC used to have serial killer Franco suddenly be outraged by the mob lol). For all the reasons people have enumerated Joss should absolutely hate him. That "Uncle Sonny" shít used to turn my stomach. If Joss, recast or otherwise, took time off and came back as a socialite schemer enacting a plot against Sonny's business interests on behalf of her father I wouldn't squawk. I will forever maintain one of the biggest mistakes Carly ever made was letting Jax get away. That man raised her sons like his own and gave them a stable and loving home. He was devoted to them, Sonny or no Sonny. They were comfortable there and comfortable with him. It wasn't the hottest pairing on Earth but Laura and Ingo worked well together. Throwing him over for Sonny with what happened is one of her core sins.

I don't see why we can't have both down the road! Drew will recover eventually.

Yeah, I've seen the script too but haven't read it yet. We'll see.

It's still a brilliant idea! I'd do it tomorrow.

Burnett is kind of a right wing crank/grifter these days and has been for a long time. I have little interest in this revival, but I would not go by those two guys.

I would not kill poor boring ol' Molly. But she would hit the bricks for many years, with the exception of some holiday visits!

He doesn't care and it's clearly a sunk cost on Molly at this point.

lol if there's one thing Sarah never does it's stand on ceremony or be less than candid. She does not mince words in that new article. There are always execs like that out there. I frankly had no interest in a revival of Buffy; I thought its ending was good enough. I think it should be left where it is for longer as I think we are in the dying days of IP cannibalization, and any return would need both more distance from the Whedon scandal and the current streaming churn and burn cycle, and really perfect writers to nail the tone. I was willing to be pleasantly surprised but I'm not exactly weeping if it doesn't happen. I feel for Sarah and the new cast but that's about it. The only thing that would make me want it more is to spite that kind of executive, which I am definitely familiar with. I was surprised to hear she had heard from the entire original cast. Last I checked Alyson Hannigan is still very close to Joss and has kept very quiet in recent years, but it seems she and Sarah patched things up a few years ago.

You may well be right, but I've also made my case for why I wouldn't before so I won't rehash that. I would let her run as long as possible but would probably still kill her someday down the road (she'd probably last longer than Willow, but I'd also try to keep Willow for at least another 2-4 years). I couldn't fault anyone for killing Ava off at this point. I just ask that it be done in proper fashion in a grand blaze of glory.

They were pure starfúckers in those days, and clearly had a close relationship to the show and Ron at that point. They were the biggest voices pushing that OLTL was Ron and Frank and vice versa, and really disdained and ran down the PP shows preemptively because of that. (Prospect Park had many issues, but not giving Cartini sole creative ownership of OLTL was not among them) DC was very influential back then but it's a different world now, I haven't been there in many years and I don't know who still pays attn to them. Of course those guys also thought FV and RC were inseparable forever and an immortal dream team, and I knew that wasn't true. It didn't surprise me when Frank cut Ron loose to keep his job. It wouldn't have surprised them, if any of them had actually paid attention to OLTL or his stewardship of it (which was reasonable enough but extremely pragmatic) before Ron became HW. Jamey among others openly admitted he'd barely watched the show lol.

I think the difference with Ava is that at core she is a villain and a very arch, cynical personality. When they try to domesticate her it rings false for me because that is not who she is or how she's meant to function. From the very first day she appeared she has been right on the edge of high camp. That's not a bad thing IMO because Maura ate the role alive with gusto at that time and often still does, but the writing struggles to keep up with who she is. Which is part of why her being relegated to C-story is tedious for me. The version I heard was that FV considered making her Robin in 2014-15 despite Kimberly regularly being available and it being RC stalling out that story lol. High on their own supply (if it was true). No one would've tolerated that, though Daytime Confidential and a couple others dutifully tried floating the trial balloon for him. This was in the dying days when Jamey, etc. kept running interference for Frank and Ron gushing about all their star hires like Stafford and so forth, up until FV shivved Ron and suddenly they all began to admit the stories and characters hadn't worked.

A subsection of fans liked Budig and some of them were desperate for ME to have any remotely viable pairing (they weren't interesting). That's about it. The same people who think Finn and Liz were great. IMO Budig was an obvious shoo-in to play Sarah but they stupidly didn't do it. I suspect again they thought the role was not 'edgy' or new enough for a star like her, which was also allegedly part of Ron and Frank's reasoning for not casting Roger Howarth as either Steve Webber or Tom Hardy in 2013 vs. Franco. Pretty sure Budig pissed Frank off, hence her multiple abrupt exits. Maybe money.

I often do. Yet people try to convince me Hayden was some indelible, important character. Sure! She was reheated Greenlee at best, and weaker.

I thought Watros would be a hit with Ingo back then. Didn't happen but tbh I was barely ever watching at that time. Stafford I could never tolerate in the role, but Nina has always been a very weak character sketch Ron and Frank only brought on so they could say they had Michelle Stafford (see also: Budig/Hayden). Watros makes her watchable via sheer commitment and the force of her wild personality, and I've enjoyed Nina much more post-Sonny. But I'd still usher her out soon enough, maybe after a meaty role in some Willow stuff. Maybe give her a happy ending with some dude, who knows.

Not demon eyes!!

Happy for OBAA which I loved, but I suspected they would not give it to Sinners which I also loved when they wouldn't give Coogler Best Director (which I would've given him as well as probably Best Picture). Knowing the Academy part of it was the PTA thing, and part of it was the fact that Sinners was on a superficial level a horror movie. Too bad. It's apples and oranges for me but that's where I'm leaving this discourse behind lol. They're both great films.

Very happy for Jessie Buckley who has been amazing since before Chernobyl, even if I wish Rose Byrne had won. Jessie is a brilliant, brilliant actress.